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> defface.  That feature should remain.  But is there any use for
> functions to set face attributes per frame?

I actually realized yesterday that I use this feature for my
minibuffer-frame by setting its font and background differently
(which in turns sets the frame-local value of the `default' face).

  (setq minibuffer-frame-alist
	'((minibuffer . only)
	  (top . -1) (left . 0) (user-position . t)
	  (height . 1) (width . 256) (user-size . t)
	  (vertical-scroll-bars . nil)
	  (menu-bar-lines . 0)
	  (tool-bar-lines . 0)
	  (font . "-misc-fixed-bold-r-normal-*-*-100-100-100-*-*-*-*")
	  (background-color . "grey75")
	  (name . "emacs-minibuffer")))

I wouldn't care too much about losing this feature (although I like
the grey background for it).


	Stefan