From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jon Cast Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: No calc in pretest? Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2002 11:37:51 -0500 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <200207041637.g64Gbpx25663@d-ip-129-15-78-125.cs.ou.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1025800734 5423 127.0.0.1 (4 Jul 2002 16:38:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:38:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs Devel Mailing List Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17Q9d8-0001PM-00 for ; Thu, 04 Jul 2002 18:38:54 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17Q9jC-00050c-00 for ; Thu, 04 Jul 2002 18:45:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17Q9dU-0004aV-00; Thu, 04 Jul 2002 12:39:16 -0400 Original-Received: from d-ip-129-15-78-125.cs.ou.edu ([129.15.78.125]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17Q9cS-0004VO-00 for ; Thu, 04 Jul 2002 12:38:12 -0400 Original-Received: from ou.edu (jcast@localhost) by d-ip-129-15-78-125.cs.ou.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64Gbpx25663; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 11:37:51 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: d-ip-129-15-78-125.cs.ou.edu: jcast owned process doing -bs Original-To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: Message from Eli Zaretskii of "Thu, 04 Jul 2002 07:36:46 +0300." Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:5463 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:5463 Eli Zaretskii wrote: > On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Jon Cast wrote: > > I doubt the /ongoing development/ of Texinfo impacts as many > > people as the /ongoing development/ of Emacs. > ??? The latest 4.x series of Texinfo introduce support for HTML, > XML, and DocBook format. That's a revolution for such a small > package, both feature-wise and as far as the code changes are > considered. Consider just the impact of the HTML split-node output > on the large body of pages which feature Web-based docs of Free > Software. OK, I (obviously) didn't know about the output format additions. I retract my statements about Texinfo. Sorry if I offended you. However, reading the Texinfo NEWS file has produced another idea why it doesn't get as many complaints: 4.0, 4.1, and 4.2 all have NEWS entries beginning `new ...'. That leads me to suspect Texinfo doesn't have bug-fix releases, which was what my complaint about Emacs centered around. I don't have any complaints about Emacs's methods for CVS or pretest version numbers, so I had mentally filtered them out of consideration for the discussion. Perhaps I was wrong about that, too. Jon Cast