From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ehelp woes, or why I hate a module that I love so much Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2002 13:52:36 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <20020704132826.4CB8.LEKTU@terra.es> References: <20020704092157.4CB2.LEKTU@terra.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1025785262 9109 127.0.0.1 (4 Jul 2002 12:21:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:21:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17Q5ba-0002Mo-00 for ; Thu, 04 Jul 2002 14:21:02 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17Q5hZ-0007Yu-00 for ; Thu, 04 Jul 2002 14:27:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17Q5bf-0005KI-00; Thu, 04 Jul 2002 08:21:07 -0400 Original-Received: from [62.22.27.141] (helo=mail.peoplecall.com) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17Q5AA-0002iw-00 for ; Thu, 04 Jul 2002 07:52:42 -0400 Original-Received: from [62.22.27.143] (jbarranquero.ofi.peoplecall.com [62.22.27.143] (may be forged)) by mail.peoplecall.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64BqYe08720; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:52:35 +0200 Original-To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.05 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:5452 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:5452 On Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:13:46 +0300 (IDT), Eli Zaretskii wrote: > AFAIK, it already is sorted. Top-down? Do you mean that "implementing a smoother vertical scroll facility" has more importance than "internationalize Emacs's messages"? :) > Richard will surely reply, but I'm confident he didn't mean that you > should be ashamed for working on Emacs. Well, my Spanish must be getting through my poor English, and we Spaniards use stronger terms in arguments that Anglo-Saxon people ;-) What I meant was that, with Richard's POV, I should be continually thinking if the bugs I'm hunting, or the new features I'm thinking (which often are small user conveniences) are really important or should I be doing another, more worthwhile, Emacs thing. But the fact is that I'm a (small) Emacs developer, but also a user, and as a user, every time that I use ehelp I get somewhat irritated (though not as irritated as if I had to use Emacs without ehelp ;) It makes perfect sense to try and fix those problems, if I can, irrespective of its relevance in the Great Master Plan. /L/e/k/t/u