From: Juanma Barranquero <lektu@terra.es>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: ehelp woes, or why I hate a module that I love so much
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:11:13 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020627190100.35DA.LEKTU@terra.es> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E17NLD6-0003JZ-00@fencepost.gnu.org>
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 18:24:24 -0400, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:
> I don't think anyone else is working on this, so if you want to
> develop these changes, please do.
First I'd like to get some input from people around here regarding why
it is necessary for ehelp to use its own command-loop. I sure would like
to get rid of it.
AFAICS, the command-loop is used only to (sort of) "force" the user to
do only pg-up, pg-down, quit, retain, etc. and show a prompt in the echo
area.
But in fact it is perfectly posible to switch to another window, kill
the electrified buffer, etc., so the command-loop is more of a nuisance
than any kind of help.
I think ehelp is conflating two different things: a framework to make
temporary, small-sized windows at the bottom of the frame and restore
the window configuration afterwards, and an "electric" interface to get
a reminding prompt and to dismiss the window with just one keystroke.
IMHO, there should be a splicit framework for temporary, small-sized
windows (using fit-window-to-buffer, etc), but its "electricity" should
be limited to defining a few useful keybindings. Moving around is
self-evident (I mean, all modes have a way to move around), and quitting
and remaining are just particular cases of burying or killing the buffer
or switching to another window. Or am I missing something important here?
/L/e/k/t/u
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-06-27 17:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-06-25 14:50 ehelp woes, or why I hate a module that I love so much Juanma Barranquero
2002-06-25 15:06 ` D. Goel
2002-06-25 15:41 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-06-26 22:24 ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-27 17:11 ` Juanma Barranquero [this message]
2002-06-27 19:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-07-02 15:02 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-07-02 15:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-07-02 15:50 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-06-29 8:41 ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-02 15:15 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-07-02 15:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-07-03 11:16 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-07-03 20:57 ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-03 21:32 ` Simon Josefsson
2002-07-04 5:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-07-04 7:58 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-07-04 10:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-07-04 11:52 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-07-06 10:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-07-04 11:02 ` Simon Josefsson
2002-07-04 12:08 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-07-04 12:19 ` Miles Bader
2002-07-04 13:31 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-07-04 14:02 ` Simon Josefsson
2002-07-04 14:00 ` Simon Josefsson
2002-07-04 15:20 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-07-17 2:58 ` emacs and guile (Re: ehelp woes, or why I hate a module that I love so much) Ken Raeburn
2002-07-17 7:13 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-07-17 9:11 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-07-18 14:54 ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-18 21:45 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-18 14:55 ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-18 20:13 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-19 13:03 ` Andreas Schwab
2002-07-19 16:24 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-19 16:54 ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-19 17:51 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-18 14:56 ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-18 19:54 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-19 4:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-07-19 12:56 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-19 13:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-07-19 14:16 ` Andreas Schwab
2002-07-19 15:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-07-19 16:54 ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-19 17:48 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-19 18:25 ` Marius Vollmer
2002-07-20 0:35 ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-20 12:00 ` Marius Vollmer
2002-07-21 20:14 ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-19 16:54 ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-04 19:07 ` ehelp woes, or why I hate a module that I love so much Henrik Enberg
2002-07-05 0:49 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-07-05 11:15 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-07-05 10:48 ` Richard Stallman
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