From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Lowercase text after full stop on describe-variable Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 11:37:26 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <20020625110923.5931.LEKTU@terra.es> References: <20020624182600.F148.LEKTU@terra.es> <200206242020.g5OKKHd04156@rum.cs.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1024997999 31426 127.0.0.1 (25 Jun 2002 09:39:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 09:39:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17Mmnm-0008Al-00 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 11:39:58 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17MmpM-0005H3-00 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 11:41:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17MmnT-0001ZM-00; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 05:39:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [62.22.27.141] (helo=mail.peoplecall.com) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17Mmla-000182-00 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 05:37:43 -0400 Original-Received: from [62.22.27.143] (jbarranquero.ofi.peoplecall.com [62.22.27.143]) by mail.peoplecall.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5P9bJY27842; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 11:37:25 +0200 Original-To: "Stefan Monnier" In-Reply-To: <200206242020.g5OKKHd04156@rum.cs.yale.edu> X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.05 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:5185 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:5185 On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 16:20:17 -0400, "Stefan Monnier" wrote: > Not that I can see apart from the fact that caddr is not defined > unless you (require 'cl). Feel free to install it Ok, I have a patch using `nth' instead. WRT the upper/lower-case issue, what should I do with variables or functions which have a NEW string (as opossed to a NEW function/variable) starting with lowercase, not ending with a stop, or otherwise non-normalized? Normalize them? Currently they are: - Variables: inhibit-local-variables unread-command-char unread-command-event before-change-function after-change-function post-command-idle-hook post-command-idle-delay - Functions: frame-update-faces (no stop) char-bytes (no stop) baud-rate string-to-sequence (no stop) `move-to-column-force' (from rect.el) is an exception because its docstring already says that the function is obsolete, and the make-obsolete declaration is wrong (it is passing as a NEW a string instead of a symbol, but the string is just the name of a function). So, what I propose is: 1.- Installing the patch so describe-function shows the obsolescent information too like describe-variable does now. 2.- Changing the "not documented" strings from those functions and `describe-face' to "Not documented". 3.- Normalizing the NEW strings currently passed to `make-obsolete' and `make-obsolete-variable'. 4.- Remove the obsolescence information from `move-to-column-force's docstring and fixing its make-obsolete declaration. It is OK to proceed? /L/e/k/t/u