From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stefan Monnier" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Integrate Tramp Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 13:46:14 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <200206221746.g5MHkEb16383@rum.cs.yale.edu> References: <200206171631.g5HGVBM13861@aztec.santafe.edu> <200206190223.g5J2NlQ15963@aztec.santafe.edu> <5xd6unqw5g.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> <200206210940.g5L9ei720274@aztec.santafe.edu> <200206220659.g5M6xW421924@aztec.santafe.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1024768091 30349 127.0.0.1 (22 Jun 2002 17:48:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 17:48:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, storm@cua.dk, miles@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17LozY-0007tH-00 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 2002 19:48:08 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17Lozp-0001c7-00 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 2002 19:48:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17Loza-0008I8-00; Sat, 22 Jun 2002 13:48:10 -0400 Original-Received: from rum.cs.yale.edu ([128.36.229.169]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17Loxj-0008Ee-00; Sat, 22 Jun 2002 13:46:15 -0400 Original-Received: (from monnier@localhost) by rum.cs.yale.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g5MHkEb16383; Sat, 22 Jun 2002 13:46:14 -0400 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 Original-To: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-15?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by rum.cs.yale.edu id g5MHkEb16383 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:5098 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:5098 > I stand by my previous opinion: do not try to auto-detect whether ssh > or telnet or Kerberos login or SSL-Telnet or ftp or whatnot should be > used. Let the user specify this. Complete agreement. > But do try to autodetect the other parameters, once the network > application has been set. For example, autodetect whether base64 > encoding or uuencoding should be used. Possibly it's also possible > to figure out whether and out-of-band method should be used. Agreed as well. You might even just go ahead and assume mimencode is available and if it fails revert to perl and if that also fails default to uu(en|de)code (so you only do the detection if it is needed). > =B9 Is this experiment unfair due to our specific firewall > configuration? I'm not a networking expert. I don't think so. Stefan