From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Patch to disable links line in *info* buffer Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 09:47:51 -0600 (MDT) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <200206141547.g5EFlpd08952@aztec.santafe.edu> References: <87bsaos1fl.fsf@orebokech.com> <200206072322.g57NMtK27277@aztec.santafe.edu> <5xbsam1tje.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> <87wut9tppe.fsf@orebokech.com> <200206101359.g5ADx7b28021@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200206130905.g5D95ie06537@aztec.santafe.edu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1024071782 13156 127.0.0.1 (14 Jun 2002 16:23:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 16:23:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17Itqo-0003Q5-00 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2002 18:23:02 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17IuFe-0008KP-00 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2002 18:48:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17ItKw-0002z9-00; Fri, 14 Jun 2002 11:50:06 -0400 Original-Received: from pele.santafe.edu ([192.12.12.119]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17ItIn-0002gg-00; Fri, 14 Jun 2002 11:47:53 -0400 Original-Received: from aztec.santafe.edu (aztec [192.12.12.49]) by pele.santafe.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5EFlqQ10963; Fri, 14 Jun 2002 09:47:52 -0600 (MDT) Original-Received: (from rms@localhost) by aztec.santafe.edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) id g5EFlpd08952; Fri, 14 Jun 2002 09:47:51 -0600 (MDT) X-Authentication-Warning: aztec.santafe.edu: rms set sender to rms@aztec using -f Original-To: bob@rattlesnake.com In-Reply-To: (bob@rattlesnake.com) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:4868 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:4868 Instead of remaking a buffer so it has two parts, only one of which is a window, We seem to be miscommunicating--that is not what I had in mind: ... I wonder--would it be useful if the header line displayed at the top of a window were part of the buffer text, rather than a feature like the mode line? I am talking about a new display feature for how to display the text in the buffer. This does not mean the buffer has "two parts". the `buffers all the way' idea is to make every window within a frame be a buffer of some sort: tool bar, menu bar, mode lines, fringes, scroll bars, Info header lines, and the windows themselves. This is the other idea I proposed, and I still think it is an elegant approach if we can do it. Handling scroll bars this way might be quite difficult, and I think it is fine for them to stay as they are. I don't think we should try to handle fringes this way. But it might make sense to handle the tool bar, menu bar, mode lines and header lines this way. A mode-line would be a buffer with these default characteristics: not-copy-able not-write-able dependent on another buffer This would be done by updating its contents within redisplay. We would do that in the places that now redisplay the mode line. always display when other buffer shows always below the other buffer one line high, same width as its parent These three are actually a matter of setting up the window structure. Most of the work, to change this, would be about how the window structure is set up and what features it provides. a specified set of fonts and faces containing special information, such as name of buffer This would be done by updating its contents within redisplay. We would do that in the places that now redisplay the mode line.