From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Problem with Emacs 21.3 pretest Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 01:04:33 -0600 (MDT) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <200205310704.g4V74Xg14526@aztec.santafe.edu> References: <200205271942.g4RJgwi11818@unix.simonwiesel.co.il> <200205280516.g4S5GJ109571@aztec.santafe.edu> <200205281012.g4SAC5a13738@unix.simonwiesel.co.il> <200205291625.g4TGPjf11916@aztec.santafe.edu> <200205291708.g4TH8Ca24706@rum.cs.yale.edu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1022828780 15163 127.0.0.1 (31 May 2002 07:06:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 07:06:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ehud@unix.simonwiesel.co.il, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17DgUO-0003wS-00 for ; Fri, 31 May 2002 09:06:20 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17DgnY-0002bg-00 for ; Fri, 31 May 2002 09:26:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17DgV2-0004hb-00; Fri, 31 May 2002 03:07:00 -0400 Original-Received: from pele.santafe.edu ([192.12.12.119]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17DgSg-0004OQ-00; Fri, 31 May 2002 03:04:35 -0400 Original-Received: from aztec.santafe.edu (aztec [192.12.12.49]) by pele.santafe.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g4V74XV23806; Fri, 31 May 2002 01:04:33 -0600 (MDT) Original-Received: (from rms@localhost) by aztec.santafe.edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) id g4V74Xg14526; Fri, 31 May 2002 01:04:33 -0600 (MDT) X-Authentication-Warning: aztec.santafe.edu: rms set sender to rms@aztec using -f Original-To: monnier+gnu/emacs@RUM.cs.yale.edu In-Reply-To: <200205291708.g4TH8Ca24706@rum.cs.yale.edu> (monnier+gnu/emacs@RUM.cs.yale.edu) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:4521 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:4521 The worst case is with X-Symbol which has an enormous keymap (because of two input methods implemented as keymaps: one in a menu and another bound to C-=) where the menu takes about 1s to come up. I would say that is serious. Users expect menus to appear very quickly.