From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: adding Calc to menu Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 01:01:46 -0600 (MDT) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <200205150701.g4F71k816289@aztec.santafe.edu> References: <1021327438.4406.101.camel@space-ghost> <877km6swad.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1021446405 30208 127.0.0.1 (15 May 2002 07:06:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 07:06:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bob@rattlesnake.com, walters@debian.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 177ss1-0007r7-00 for ; Wed, 15 May 2002 09:06:45 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 177t3Q-0004Vt-00 for ; Wed, 15 May 2002 09:18:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 177sps-0006WA-00; Wed, 15 May 2002 03:04:32 -0400 Original-Received: from pele.santafe.edu ([192.12.12.119]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 177snD-0006L5-00; Wed, 15 May 2002 03:01:47 -0400 Original-Received: from aztec.santafe.edu (aztec [192.12.12.49]) by pele.santafe.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g4F71kk19217; Wed, 15 May 2002 01:01:46 -0600 (MDT) Original-Received: (from rms@localhost) by aztec.santafe.edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) id g4F71k816289; Wed, 15 May 2002 01:01:46 -0600 (MDT) X-Authentication-Warning: aztec.santafe.edu: rms set sender to rms@aztec using -f Original-To: miles@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <877km6swad.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> (message from Miles Bader on 14 May 2002 22:18:02 +0900) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:3958 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:3958 [A similar confusing situation is that there are two terminal emulators, `term' and `terminal-emulator', with no obvious clue why there are two, or which is better. ... and `vi-mode', `vip-mode', and `viper-mode'... Maybe we need to look into obsoleting some of these packages...] We might be able to obsolete vi-mode and vip, but it is necessary to poll the users first. Would someone like to do this?