From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Werner LEMBERG Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Insert Euro symbol Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 08:39:41 +0200 (CEST) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <20020505.083941.77253523.wl@gnu.org> References: <200205031825.g43IPUb00711@aztec.santafe.edu> <200205041502.g44F2VW01267@aztec.santafe.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1020584158 20431 127.0.0.1 (5 May 2002 07:35:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 07:35:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE, ats@acm.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 174GYo-0005JQ-00 for ; Sun, 05 May 2002 09:35:58 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 174GfN-0000kq-00 for ; Sun, 05 May 2002 09:42:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 174GTN-0006K3-00; Sun, 05 May 2002 03:30:21 -0400 Original-Received: from moutvdomng0.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.180] helo=moutvdomng0.schlund.de) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 174GQJ-0006AW-00; Sun, 05 May 2002 03:27:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.20.224.204] (helo=mrvdom00.kundenserver.de) by moutvdomng0.schlund.de with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #2) id 174GQI-0003oV-00; Sun, 05 May 2002 09:27:10 +0200 Original-Received: from [62.156.48.150] (helo=orion.local) by mrvdom00.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 174GQH-0002y6-00; Sun, 5 May 2002 09:27:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.local (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g456dgs13123; Sun, 5 May 2002 08:39:42 +0200 Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <200205041502.g44F2VW01267@aztec.santafe.edu> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.0.54 on Emacs 21.2.50.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:3595 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:3595 > I started writing changes to add ways to enter some additional > characters, shown below. But I have doubts about whether these > sequences are good ones. They might be inconvenient. A lot of them are inconvenient IMHO since they occur very frequently e.g. in writing emails. What do you think about having sequences of three characters? The first one is a kind of escape character, say, `C-.', followed by your two-character sequences (or a one-character sequence if that makes sense). My comments below are only valid if you really want to add two-character sequences. Otherwise, X compose sequences are probably the best. > + ("\"\"" ?=A8) This conflicts with many programming languages where you have to type \\ regularly. > + ("''" ?=B4) Ditto. > + (",," ?=B8) Ditto. > + ("* " ?=A0) ; Non-breaking space Hmm, has Emacs a feature to make non-breaking spaces visible? > + ("+_" ?=B1) I would rather use what the compose feature of X uses, namely `+-'. > + ("-*" ?=AD) For most fonts, this is graphically the same as a normal hyphen. Emacs should also provide a means to make them visually different. > + ("2_" ?=BD) > + ("4_" ?=BC) > + ("3_" ?=BE) I don't like to have the underscore in such sequences since it means an additional keystroke. For my proposed three-character sequences, a better choice would be `12', `14', and `34', respectively. > + ("//" ?=F7) `//' is already in use. It produces `=B0'. I *hate* this one, since typing URLs is a real pain. With my proposal, this could be come `C-. o'. Werner