From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-l while in menu? Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 00:07:34 -0600 (MDT) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <200204250607.g3P67Ym03968@aztec.santafe.edu> References: <200204072343.g37NhIC20114@aztec.santafe.edu> <200204201727.g3KHRD401381@aztec.santafe.edu> <200204220746.g3M7kvY01878@aztec.santafe.edu> <200204220928.g3M9S9H32293@rum.cs.yale.edu> <3CC40A74.5040600@666.com> <200204231930.g3NJUvJ02796@aztec.santafe.edu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1019715052 19638 127.0.0.1 (25 Apr 2002 06:10:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 06:10:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier+gnu/emacs@RUM.cs.yale.edu, Pavel@janik.cz, gerd@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 170cSx-00056d-00 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 08:10:51 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 170cUz-0000hG-00 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 08:12:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 170cSu-0004I8-00; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 02:10:48 -0400 Original-Received: from pele.santafe.edu ([192.12.12.119]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 170cPn-00041O-00; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 02:07:35 -0400 Original-Received: from aztec.santafe.edu (aztec [192.12.12.49]) by pele.santafe.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g3P67Ya25439; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 00:07:34 -0600 (MDT) Original-Received: (from rms@localhost) by aztec.santafe.edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) id g3P67Ym03968; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 00:07:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Authentication-Warning: aztec.santafe.edu: rms set sender to rms@aztec using -f Original-To: keichwa@gmx.net In-Reply-To: (message from Karl Eichwalder on Tue, 23 Apr 2002 22:22:11 +0200) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:3236 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:3236 No. No user will press two keys plus a letter to get a menu ;) To solve the question you have to take a decision first: do you want to provide menus for new users (new but already familiar with some sort of GUI) or for old users quite familiar with Emacs? It is not just a matter of serving old users, but also providing the efficient facilities of Emacs for new users who want to learn them. Therefore, my decision is that we will not use Meta-letters as menu accelerators in Emacs. M-f will continue to forward-word by default.