From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-l while in menu? Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 13:30:57 -0600 (MDT) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <200204231930.g3NJUvJ02796@aztec.santafe.edu> References: <200204072343.g37NhIC20114@aztec.santafe.edu> <200204201727.g3KHRD401381@aztec.santafe.edu> <200204220746.g3M7kvY01878@aztec.santafe.edu> <200204220928.g3M9S9H32293@rum.cs.yale.edu> <3CC40A74.5040600@666.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1019590440 16629 127.0.0.1 (23 Apr 2002 19:34:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 19:34:00 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 170636-0004K6-00 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2002 21:34:00 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17064Q-0004EI-00 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2002 21:35:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17062V-0006AN-00; Tue, 23 Apr 2002 15:33:23 -0400 Original-Received: from pele.santafe.edu ([192.12.12.119]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17060I-0004nK-00; Tue, 23 Apr 2002 15:31:06 -0400 Original-Received: from aztec.santafe.edu (aztec [192.12.12.49]) by pele.santafe.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g3NJUva28630; Tue, 23 Apr 2002 13:30:57 -0600 (MDT) Original-Received: (from rms@localhost) by aztec.santafe.edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) id g3NJUvJ02796; Tue, 23 Apr 2002 13:30:57 -0600 (MDT) X-Authentication-Warning: aztec.santafe.edu: rms set sender to rms@aztec using -f Original-to: monnier+gnu/emacs@RUM.cs.yale.edu, Pavel@janik.cz, gerd@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <3CC40A74.5040600@666.com> (message from Ben Wing on Mon, 22 Apr 2002 06:04:52 -0700) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:3125 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:3125 -- otherwise, you can use the standard alt/meta key -- meta+any accelerator letter selects a menu, otherwise you get the regular behavior. for any shadowed binding, meta+shift+letter ignores the accelerator and gets you the shadowed binding [or alternatively, use esc+letter, which also ignores the accelerator]. I don't think that accelerators should ever shadow standard Emacs keys such as M-f, M-e, M-b, M-t, M-h, and M-m by default in any X configuration. We have to find some other default bindings. Perhaps M-Shift- characters should be the default menu accelerators.