From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: reducing defface redundancy Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 01:47:50 -0600 (MDT) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <200204220747.g3M7lo301995@aztec.santafe.edu> References: <877kn3qczq.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> <871yd9q09b.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1019463974 27995 127.0.0.1 (22 Apr 2002 08:26:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 08:26:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: abraham@dina.kvl.dk, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16zZ9K-0007HQ-00 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:26:14 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16zZ9w-0006yI-00 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:26:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16zYad-0005LK-00; Mon, 22 Apr 2002 03:50:23 -0400 Original-Received: from pele.santafe.edu ([192.12.12.119]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16zYYB-00051p-00; Mon, 22 Apr 2002 03:47:51 -0400 Original-Received: from aztec.santafe.edu (aztec [192.12.12.49]) by pele.santafe.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g3M7loa01516; Mon, 22 Apr 2002 01:47:50 -0600 (MDT) Original-Received: (from rms@localhost) by aztec.santafe.edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) id g3M7lo301995; Mon, 22 Apr 2002 01:47:50 -0600 (MDT) X-Authentication-Warning: aztec.santafe.edu: rms set sender to rms@aztec using -f Original-To: miles@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <871yd9q09b.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> (message from Miles Bader on 21 Apr 2002 11:00:16 +0900) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:3000 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:3000 Remember, by default (unless you select `Show All Display Specs'), the face customization widget basically tosses out all the clauses of the current defface spec except the active one. So, 99% of the time, the user only deals with the _current_ definition of a face, and is happy. Simple face customization is clean now because it affects just one alternative, and it is easy and well-defined to select just the alternative that applies. With your propose defface change, the attributes actually specified would not come from a single alternative in a simple way. So the customization of the active parts of the defface spec would raise difficult issues. If the user adds a new attribute, where in the structure does it go?