From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Jan D." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Make GUI look better Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 11:47:58 +0200 (MEST) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <200204200947.LAA05497@pc35.bodenonline.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1019296281 32102 127.0.0.1 (20 Apr 2002 09:51:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 09:51:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16yrWb-0008Lf-00 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 11:51:21 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16yrqN-00020g-00 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 12:11:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16yrWO-0006gK-00; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 05:51:08 -0400 Original-Received: from stubby.bodenonline.com ([213.115.192.62]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16yrTd-0006Zm-00 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 05:48:17 -0400 Original-Received: from pc35.bodenonline.com (IDENT:root@pc35.bodenonline.com [195.196.29.227] (may be forged)) by stubby.bodenonline.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g3K9k1X6017050; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 11:46:02 +0200 Original-To: Pavel@Janik.cz (Pavel =?iso-8859-2?q?Jan=EDk?=) In-Reply-To: from "Pavel =?iso-8859-2?q?Jan=EDk?=" at apr 20, 2002 10:06:27 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL0pre8] Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:2824 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:2824 > Hi, > > while doing some work on menus, I realized that Emacs' GUI is "weird" > comparing to other free software I used as an inspiration. > > It is weird, because it uses too thick borders around menu, around toolbar > buttons etc. It is possible to make it suit your needs via customizing > some variables and X resources, but by default it is ugly. I think the GUI was made to look similar to the Motif default, I can't tell the difference if I have two Emacsen next to each other, one with Motif and one with Lucid menubars. Motif defaults have been considered a bit "heavy" by users used to some other look. Your new look is more GTK-like, and thus perhaps a bit more modern looking. I really can't say I prefer one over the other, they both look OK to me. Jan D.