From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stefan Monnier" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Enhancements to "minor-mode-map-alist" functionality. Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 10:46:02 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <200204191446.g3JEk2w09743@rum.cs.yale.edu> References: <5xbscpg7zl.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> <200204112243.g3BMhmI01190@rum.cs.yale.edu> <5xd6x5i7ps.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> <5x4rih12b2.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> <200204121846.g3CIkZY16909@rum.cs.yale.edu> <5xofgoobzr.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> <200204122021.g3CKLh217680@rum.cs.yale.edu> <5xu1qd29od.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> <200204162018.g3GKI3S24358@aztec.santafe.edu> <5x662rxog2.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> <200204181846.g3IIk2K00596@aztec.santafe.edu> <5xk7r4mwqs.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> <200204191343.g3JDh1V09176@rum.cs.yale.edu> <5xn0vz8zv3.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1019227765 4581 127.0.0.1 (19 Apr 2002 14:49:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 14:49:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Stefan Monnier" , emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16yZhV-0001Bm-00 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2002 16:49:25 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16ya0t-0001eN-00 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2002 17:09:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16yZgb-0005vQ-00; Fri, 19 Apr 2002 10:48:29 -0400 Original-Received: from rum.cs.yale.edu ([128.36.229.169]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16yZeG-0005cK-00 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2002 10:46:04 -0400 Original-Received: (from monnier@localhost) by rum.cs.yale.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g3JEk2w09743; Fri, 19 Apr 2002 10:46:02 -0400 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 Original-To: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:2787 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:2787 > "Stefan Monnier" writes: > > > > I've described that several times by now -- I'm trying to find the > > > right approach to address the issues with complex modes which uses a > > > lot of keymaps (like cua and viper) and base the selection between > > > those keymaps on combining various state information, i.e. to provide > > > a more versatile keymap functionality than what is currently > > > available. > > > > I haven't heard any comment about my proposal to use `menu-item' > > bindings with a :enable setting in order to get conditional bindings > > (this doesn't currently work, but it should be pretty easy to make > > it work). > > Would it help you solve your problems ? > > Considering that cua has approx 100 bindings in 7 keymaps, > it seems like absolute overkill IMO to condition each of those > 100 bindings individually instead of just the 7 keymaps which > contain those bindings... Is that 7*100 bindings or 7*14 bindings ? How much overlap ? How many different conditions would there be ? For the sake of describe-key, I think it's better to have fewer bindings (with the dispatch done more often in the bound function rather than in the :enable conditionals) so that the docstring can describe what happens when. Stefan