From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Question about copy-region-as-kill Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 13:49:57 -0600 (MDT) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <200204121949.g3CJnv622653@aztec.santafe.edu> References: <87ofh09xjq.fsf@alice.dynodns.net> <200204050602.g3562Dl18586@aztec.santafe.edu> <87bscx7rlf.fsf@alice.dynodns.net> <3791-Sat06Apr2002101927+0300-eliz@is.elta.co.il> <873cy9nsom.fsf@alice.dynodns.net> <87wuvk77mc.fsf@wesley.springies.com> <200204081553.g38FrFM10159@rum.cs.yale.edu> <87zo0dc2em.fsf@alice.dynodns.net> <5x3cy5md5e.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> <200204101424.g3AEO8N20963@aztec.santafe.edu> <5x3cy3semh.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> <200204111453.g3BErQr21369@aztec.santafe.edu> <5xlmbu42us.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1018641117 1755 127.0.0.1 (12 Apr 2002 19:51:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 19:51:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: johnw@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16w75Q-0000SC-00 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2002 21:51:56 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16w7Lq-00008t-00 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2002 22:08:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16w75J-00006r-00; Fri, 12 Apr 2002 15:51:49 -0400 Original-Received: from pele.santafe.edu ([192.12.12.119]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16w73W-0008Po-00; Fri, 12 Apr 2002 15:49:59 -0400 Original-Received: from aztec.santafe.edu (aztec [192.12.12.49]) by pele.santafe.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g3CJnva12559; Fri, 12 Apr 2002 13:49:57 -0600 (MDT) Original-Received: (from rms@localhost) by aztec.santafe.edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) id g3CJnv622653; Fri, 12 Apr 2002 13:49:57 -0600 (MDT) X-Authentication-Warning: aztec.santafe.edu: rms set sender to rms@aztec using -f Original-To: storm@cua.dk In-Reply-To: <5xlmbu42us.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> (storm@cua.dk) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:2599 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:2599 It might use an image property to show an icon _instead_ of a MIME attachment. Now, if you copy the message to another buffer, do you want to still _see_ the icon instead of the MIME attachment, or do you want to see the "raw" text? I don't know. I guess, it again depends on what the target buffer is. If you are composing a new message, it would make sense to just see the icon for the attachment, but for other purposes, that may not be what you want... Can you try to think further about this question? Which kinds of buffers would you want that icon to appear in? Would it really work to copy the attachment verbatim into an outgoing message? Actually I think not; it would require some other modification to turn into a valid outgoing MIME attachment. Perhaps these properties should never be copied into any other buffer. > But what about (also) having a user command: > > yank-without-properties > > I dislike it very much. It is far better to have a convenient > way to clear out text properties from the region. I dislike it too, but at least it gives the user the final word! The convenient way to clear out text properties also does that.