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From: "Stefan Monnier" <monnier+gnu/emacs@RUM.cs.yale.edu>
Cc: "Stefan Monnier" <monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: featurep
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 19:39:37 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200203220039.g2M0dbj19729@rum.cs.yale.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 5x7ko5zosj.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk

> > >     Having make-network-process doing something other than making a
> > >     network process is not a more intuitive solution than featurep.
> > > 
> > > That is exactly what bothers me about it.
> > > 
> > > Perhaps we can implement use of lists as subfeatures.  Then
> > > (featurep 'make-network-process '(:family local)) could be used
> > > instead of (make-network-process :feature :family 'local).
> > 
> > I still haven't heard any evidence that
> > 
> > 	(condition-case nil
> > 	    (make-network-process foo bar baz)
> > 	  (unsupported-networking-feature
> > 	    ...do..something..else...))
> > 
> > is not enough and that a separate `featurep' support is required.
> 
> One example could be that we need to use different sentinels and
> filters depending on what features are supported.  Using the
> featurep method, we only need to define the sentinel and filter
> functions related to the actual method used.
> 
> The condition-case approach means that you don't know in advance
> what will be the optimal approach.

I wasn't asking "can you think of a case where `featurep' would
be useful" but "are there such cases".  And I don't really care
about cases where `featurep' would be marginally more convenient.

For instance, I'm not convinced by your example: conditionally defining
functions is not something I'd advocate anyway (unless you can put them
in different files, but I doubt the sentinels and filters will
be large enough to warrant my-server-nonblocking.el
and myserver-blocking.el) so have both versions of the code defined
is a perfectly acceptable overhead, just as is the overhead of having
a single version of the functions with a dynamic check inside (I expect
that the different versions of the sentinel and filter codes will
be similar enough that there'll be a fair amount of code-sharing
anyway).


	Stefan


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  reply	other threads:[~2002-03-22  0:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200203190844.g2J8iOq09224@wijiji.santafe.edu>
2002-03-19 13:39 ` featurep Kim F. Storm
2002-03-19 19:24   ` featurep Jason Rumney
2002-03-19 21:20     ` featurep Stefan Monnier
2002-03-19 23:09       ` featurep Kim F. Storm
2002-03-19 23:19         ` featurep Stefan Monnier
2002-03-19 23:48           ` featurep Kim F. Storm
2002-03-20  0:03             ` featurep Stefan Monnier
2002-03-19 22:59     ` featurep Kim F. Storm
2002-03-21  9:04     ` featurep Richard Stallman
2002-03-21 13:12       ` featurep Kim F. Storm
2002-03-23  2:35         ` featurep Richard Stallman
2002-03-21 16:44       ` featurep Stefan Monnier
2002-03-21 19:47         ` featurep Kim F. Storm
2002-03-22  0:39           ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2002-03-22  9:14             ` featurep Kim F. Storm

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