From: Anton Zinoviev <anton@lml.bas.bg>
Subject: Re: "Outer world" encoding for non-Latin1 language environments
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 20:27:44 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020306202743.D16114@lml.bas.bg> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8011-Tue05Mar2002192819+0200-eliz@is.elta.co.il>; from eliz@is.elta.co.il on Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 07:28:19PM +0200
On 5.III.2002 at 19:28 Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>
> Are you sure you get jisx0208? What does Emacs say if you go to one
> of the Cyrillic characters you pasted and type "C-u C-x ="? Please
> post everything Emacs displays in the buffer it pops up.
I will post the result.
> Yes, you are right. Please suggest what changes should be done in
> locale-language-names for the Cyrillic locales.
This is a general question about what Cyrillic language environments
Emacs should have. Please give a suggestion. This is the current
situation about locales and languages:
be in mule-cmd.el maps to language environment "Belarussian" (the right
spelling is Belarusian, not Belarussian). There is no such language
environment in Emacs. The locale be_BY is for CP1251 but Emacs doesn't
support CP1251 in cyrillic.el. I can make the necessary changes about
that but AFAIK Dave Love does something similar and I'd better contact
him.
Acording to Alexander Mikhailian (the author of "Belarusian-HOWTO") ISO
8859-5 is better supported than CP1251 and thats why Emacs should
support also Belarusian+ISO-8859-5. I guess this means two languages
environments for Belarusian: Belarusian-CP1251 and Belarusian-ISO?
bg in mule-cmd.el maps to language environment "Bulgarian" which also
doesn't exist. The locale bg_BG is for CP1251. Bulgarian GNU/Linux
users have always used CP1251, even before XFree4.0.2 (the first version
that supports this encoding). Two completely different keyboard layouts
are used in Bulgaria. This has been discussed already
<http://mail.gnu.org/pipermail/bug-gnu-emacs/2002-January/009497.html> I
think it is better to have two language environments Bulgarian-BDS and
Bulgarian-phonetic.
mk (Macedonian) in mule-cmd.el maps to "Latin-5". The locale mk_MK is
for ISO 8859-5. The most closest language environment is "Cyrillic-ISO",
but it uses Russian keyboard. If you agree I will make language
environment for Macedonian, or else that will be "Cyrillic-ISO".
ru in mule-cmd.el maps to "Latin-5". That definitely should be
"Cyrillic-ISO".
tg (Tadjik) in mule-cmd.el maps to "Cyrillic-KOI8-T". There is no such
language environment in Emacs, but I can make it. KOI8-T has to be
added in cyrillic.el.
uk (Ukrainian) maps to language environment "Ukrainian". There is no
such environment in Emacs, but I can make it. KOI8-U has to be added in
cyrillic.el.
> Please send more details about this problem; if you can debug this by
> yorself, it would be even better. I don't have any access to a
> system in Cyrillic locale running X.
I will see what I can do.
> Is it possible that v21.1 that worked for you was compiled with XIM,
> whereas the CVS version is not, or vice versa? For XIM, the
> locale-coding-system should be set correctly, or else non-ASCII input
> will not DTRT. Perhaps the same bug in mule-cmds.el that you
> mentioned also affects this issue, as it sets the wrong
> locale-coding-system given the value of LANG and LC_* environment
> variables?
There are no problems in text-mode. Emacs beeps not only to
alphanumeric characters but also for xkeysyms like "ISO_Next_Group".
Regards, Anton Zinoviev
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-03-06 18:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-02-27 11:29 "Outer world" encoding for non-Latin1 language environments Anton Zinoviev
2002-02-27 11:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-03-01 18:00 ` Anton Zinoviev
2002-03-01 18:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-03-01 19:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-03-05 10:57 ` Anton Zinoviev
2002-03-05 17:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-03-06 18:27 ` Anton Zinoviev [this message]
2002-03-06 19:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-03-06 20:16 ` Anton Zinoviev
2002-03-07 6:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-03-13 20:13 ` Anton Zinoviev
2002-03-15 7:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-03-22 12:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-03-01 1:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-03-01 7:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2002-02-27 11:46 Kenichi Handa
2002-02-27 12:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
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