From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: quimby.gnus.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Re: Save Options vs. default-input-method Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 03:36:46 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <200202151036.g1FAakj07318@santafe.santafe.edu> References: <200201302237.g0UMb1d24844@aztec.santafe.edu> <200202040927.g149RUF02434@aztec.santafe.edu> <200202051248.g15CmDb02207@aztec.santafe.edu> <200202071457.g17EvBK04629@aztec.santafe.edu> <200202100517.g1A5Hoe06105@aztec.santafe.edu> <200202110209.g1B29mh06648@aztec.santafe.edu> <200202121523.g1CFNpo07307@aztec.santafe.edu> <200202140311.g1E3BRJ09026@aztec.santafe.edu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: quimby2.netfonds.no X-Trace: quimby2.netfonds.no 1013770324 30488 195.204.10.66 (15 Feb 2002 10:52:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby2.netfonds.no NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 Feb 2002 10:52:04 GMT Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby2.netfonds.no with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16bfyF-0007vd-00 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 11:52:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16bfmb-0005iY-00; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 05:40:01 -0500 Original-Received: from pele.santafe.edu ([192.12.12.119]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16bfjU-0005Wh-00; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 05:36:48 -0500 Original-Received: from santafe.santafe.edu (santafe [192.12.12.2]) by pele.santafe.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g1FAalu25277; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 03:36:47 -0700 (MST) Original-Received: (from rms@localhost) by santafe.santafe.edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) id g1FAakj07318; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 03:36:46 -0700 (MST) X-Authentication-Warning: santafe.santafe.edu: rms set sender to rms@santafe using -f Original-To: abraham@dina.kvl.dk In-reply-to: (message from Per Abrahamsen on Thu, 14 Feb 2002 10:34:41 +0100) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: quimby.gnus.org gmane.emacs.devel:1164 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:1164 > Does that apply here? Do these standard values change a lot? I don't > see that they do. As far as I know, these defaults have never changed > since these features were first implemented. True for menu-bar-mode, but tool-bar-mode is nil if you start with "-nw". It looks correct to say that the standard value is t, but in this case the actual value is nil. Isn't that the cleanest way to model the situation? Do you see a reason why that is a bad way to look at it? Will you give me an OK to change standard-value for menu-bar-mode and tool-bar-mode to t? I'm asking for your help in understanding whether that change would really have any bad consequences. Do you see a situation where it would have bad consequences? _______________________________________________ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel