From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: quimby.gnus.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Re: Save Options vs. default-input-method Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 20:11:27 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <200202140311.g1E3BRJ09026@aztec.santafe.edu> References: <200201302237.g0UMb1d24844@aztec.santafe.edu> <200202040927.g149RUF02434@aztec.santafe.edu> <200202051248.g15CmDb02207@aztec.santafe.edu> <200202071457.g17EvBK04629@aztec.santafe.edu> <200202100517.g1A5Hoe06105@aztec.santafe.edu> <200202110209.g1B29mh06648@aztec.santafe.edu> <200202121523.g1CFNpo07307@aztec.santafe.edu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: quimby2.netfonds.no X-Trace: quimby2.netfonds.no 1013657014 12027 195.204.10.66 (14 Feb 2002 03:23:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby2.netfonds.no NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Feb 2002 03:23:34 GMT Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby2.netfonds.no with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16bCUg-00037s-00 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 04:23:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16bCJc-0005tP-00; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:12:08 -0500 Original-Received: from pele.santafe.edu ([192.12.12.119]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16bCIz-0005p6-00; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:11:29 -0500 Original-Received: from aztec.santafe.edu (aztec [192.12.12.49]) by pele.santafe.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g1E3BRu16446; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 20:11:27 -0700 (MST) Original-Received: (from rms@localhost) by aztec.santafe.edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) id g1E3BRJ09026; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 20:11:27 -0700 (MST) X-Authentication-Warning: aztec.santafe.edu: rms set sender to rms@aztec using -f Original-To: abraham@dina.kvl.dk In-reply-to: (message from Per Abrahamsen on Tue, 12 Feb 2002 17:24:39 +0100) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: quimby.gnus.org gmane.emacs.devel:1100 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:1100 > Is there some reason we want this always to be saved? In general: If the standard value changes a lot, we might want to save the option even if identical to the current standard value, as it might not be identical to future standard values. Does that apply here? Do these standard values change a lot? I don't see that they do. As far as I know, these defaults have never changed since these features were first implemented. > What precisely would go wrong if you make t the standard value? Even when there isn't any tool bar? That might work, a user might want to tell Emacs never to turn on the tool bar, but is not likely to tell Emacs to always turn on the tool bar, even when Emacs would not do it by default. As far as I know, Emacs always turns on the tool bar by default. Or at least it tries to. On some terminals this does not succeed because they cannot support the feature, but Emacs always tries to have a tool bar. Am I mistaken? _______________________________________________ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel