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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247853 Archived-At: > I've already opined on downsides: >=20 > everybody having to write the same thing again and again, > closed-ness to the public (you or I can't read the actual replies), > and in the event that a significant number of our users really choose > to participate, it will result in a crapload of messages that a single > person has little hope to sort out. >=20 > And if every such poll will requires a special setup (configuration by > the admins, etcetera), it will limit our ability to do them. I don't see how all of those downsides couldn't be mitigated, providing a GNU site or other means to serve as single collection point, echoing point (echoing current counts, text suggestions, etc.), and even providing a discussion venue. Nothing says that we need to prevent the public from seeing the poll results, including comments, for example. The point of my suggestion was to not try to have such polling (interaction, counting, reporting) be repeated (and likely in differing, possibly conflicting ways) on sites outside GNU - and instead to just _announce_ a poll on such outside venues. To be clear, nothing should prevent also discussion etc. on such non-GNU venues. The point is for GNU to count, echo, and provide discussion via a GNU site/mechanism. IOW, don't try to reproduce the polling here, there and everywhere. Just announce it here, there, and everywhere. Anyone who wants to discuss a poll here, there, and everywhere is welcome to do so, but that discussion will not automatically be captured as part of the poll itself. Just one suggestion.