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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:265241 Archived-At: On 19.02.2021 14:43, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>> That's not necessarily true. We also use ;;;###autoload as the means >>> to load a mode when some command is invoked. >> I think that means that such commands don't need to be tagged (since >> they can be called before the mode is even defined). > You mean, they_should_not_ be tagged, yes? Yes. Thus they won't slow down the loading of loaddefs, which was the concern.