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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:321256 Archived-At: On 03/07/2024 16:53, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> At that point, the and keys no longer >> make sense, because, clearly, buffers are arranged in a vertical list >> rather than a horizontal strip. > AFAIK these commands cycle through the list of buffers, so I think of it > as a circle, and I'd rather use keys like and > . Sounds like PgUp and PgDown could have been a good fit.