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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:248509 Archived-At: > When looking for a function > whose name you don't know, the first place to look is in the ELisp > manual. Thus, for finding functions that deal with alists, the first > thing to try is "i alist RET" in the ELisp manual. Here "alist" is > not a part of a function's name, it's a topic which you are looking > for. That is much more efficient than the sequence you described > above, because we take special care of having meaningful topics in the > indices of the manual, precisely to help in such situations. (And my > advice is to always have the ELisp manual shown in some frame on your > display, so that you don't even need to type "C-h i" etc. to get to > it.) I agree with Eli about this. ` i' in a manual is your friend. However, that's usable only for functions etc. in the vanilla code distributed with Emacs. Maybe that's all Philippe is interested in this case; maybe not. If a user wants a function that acts on or returns an alist, and wants to include functions that are not part of vanilla Emacs, then the interactive help, not the manuals, are the answer.