From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Moving kbd to subr.el Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 13:50:09 +0000 Message-ID: <19fca5d18b7944a74d7f@heytings.org> References: <20211004081724.6281.11798@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <834k9km5no.fsf@gnu.org> <83k0iflsze.fsf@gnu.org> <874k9jzu7a.fsf@gnus.org> <874k9juy0r.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtnbtimj.fsf@gnus.org> <87wnmd13ny.fsf@gnus.org> <87sfx10xs6.fsf@gnus.org> <87h7dfpjn3.fsf@gnus.org> <31b2f1e94178d73e5f05@heytings.org> <87czo3pgs1.fsf@gnus.org> <31b2f1e9412d60db82df@heytings.org> <87o87moopl.fsf@gnus.org> <19fca5d18b63e6eff5de@heytings.org> <87wnmaiida.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36488"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Stefan Kangas , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 18 15:52:16 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mcT3m-0009Cd-Br for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 15:52:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56404 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcT3l-0004z7-DW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 09:52:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54868) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcT1q-0003Cb-0S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 09:50:14 -0400 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:56610) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcT1n-0002kU-Vu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 09:50:13 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1634565009; bh=/9EeRr/y8S34mC6w2HSNy3p8WEHx3nS+ovbm46ZghS0=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=bNiP9ep0ZTsQuUPxNWZvI0MlY5Ny5xCobFJ7v9E9WDQePyCIsbQN2uqHpqF21ONls KGVBdom+YMnBJpGWUxRiMcHe6lfxEwufgTpMRRXk6AiXxQgmgXSKzxukUiTc6qErMg Zif0rAKvPz+FZIiVu6JCzVUfmEDzMu6YscWcLQsBIGLySAWG5Z7enMpcMhGJrV9V67 8Xdqg68mPYKjTBKdYAr1uF2CB9ACeLHUYTraXe3iJ8qY1pHylfTzVdoyUe/sDFMEHn HssN1dRuBk3Ni8Kq0v5CIZ8yXHO3xb7BBLy+2XXYGIPLPgC1m+b/IrnabX/IGiY3Ek y3EjT485Q1w/g== In-Reply-To: <87wnmaiida.fsf@gnus.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.142.160.155; envelope-from=gregory@heytings.org; helo=heytings.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:277290 Archived-At: >> What I was suggesting is to allow both syntaxes for one Emacs release, >> and to deprecate the "strings where every char represents an event" in >> the next Emacs release (or possibly to create a specific notation for >> them if removing them is not possible). > > Removing or changing the current string-based syntax would be > impossible, so a plan that starts with as a criterion is already dead. > Hence the "create a specific notation for them if removing them is not possible". E.g. use a "{string}" syntax in the (rare) cases where the current string-based syntax is necessary, and use the "string" syntax in all other cases.