From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Moving kbd to subr.el Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 16:27:41 +0000 Message-ID: <19fca5d18b66bb72aef1@heytings.org> References: <20211004081724.6281.11798@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <834k9km5no.fsf@gnu.org> <83k0iflsze.fsf@gnu.org> <874k9jzu7a.fsf@gnus.org> <874k9juy0r.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtnbtimj.fsf@gnus.org> <87wnmd13ny.fsf@gnus.org> <87sfx10xs6.fsf@gnus.org> <87h7dfpjn3.fsf@gnus.org> <31b2f1e94178d73e5f05@heytings.org> <87czo3pgs1.fsf@gnus.org> <31b2f1e9412d60db82df@heytings.org> <87o87moopl.fsf@gnus.org> <19fca5d18b63e6eff5de@heytings.org> <87wnmaiida.fsf@gnus.org> <87czo2nzt6.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26000"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Stefan Kangas , Emacs developers To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 18 18:28:41 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mcVVB-0006Xr-E1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 18:28:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42476 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcVV9-0003aX-Kg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 12:28:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34144) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcVUH-0001eB-7D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 12:27:45 -0400 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:56828) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcVUF-00056J-LS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 12:27:44 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1634574461; bh=CrtKjvVpXnFN94+mQ+mnb9dXfbS00nvCJ8OGNd3FN+I=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=OtyqrCjyDQMpB2aFoJ7sG/AsYcZM+3viwqbRvdbqwOHAMW3UrOiCZ3lmGua+Rj1jH vQnwOMDPYPepsRd+jSmB+idQk6hSvw1FF/Ard4+KnjR2soVT1aPDUyKvPBZqK1z07V B0fWsrMPT8aZnxcySLC4ssQVcCATOW8olRcxInm9TZV1wS+6nuQOCiUfhaVD4Omou2 NixhMUK3WUs5dbF9Y+5z2y+CvP0Imaqi9jEBzgwqCn+93LofRPMQzuF9S4J2B9tC7M QIR91v7Jt01RMsszvqY248vsK3ARx3AVbJDl4ngZlcd8pptB4aXCGE3KbTYxnMZq6O W8s/8PRbmV4mg== In-Reply-To: <87czo2nzt6.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.142.160.155; envelope-from=gregory@heytings.org; helo=heytings.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:277303 Archived-At: >> At the same time, maybe I don't understand the overreaching plan. Is >> the idea to be able to replace any use of (kbd "M-x") with ["M-x"] >> everywhere, including in 'define-key' et al? > > Any use of (kbd "M-x") can't be replaced with ["M-x"]. For example, this > use from (info "(elisp) Functions for Key Lookup") > > (lookup-key (current-global-map) (kbd "C-x C-f")) > > can't be replaced with: > > (lookup-key (current-global-map) ["C-x C-f"]) > But note that with my patch it can be replaced with (lookup-key (current-global-map) "C-x C-f")