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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250014 Archived-At: On 12.05.2020 21:01, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>> If the intent is to create package repositories that are not part of >>> the Emacs project, I have no objections (and even if I did, people >>> could rightfully ignore them). >> That's not how this works: the only reason for repositories like >> "ELPA-Contrib" or "MELPA-Libre" to exist would be that contrary to MELPA >> they'd be included in `package-archives` by default. > If these are free software repositories, is there any reason for us > not to include them? A have a feeling that I'm missing something, but > I don't know why. MELPA is already a free software repository (it has to be anyway, since packages "link" to Emacs). But some packages these integrate with non-free external programs, or otherwise recommend them. Is that an issue for us?