* Stability of project.el
@ 2023-07-10 18:53 Philip Kaludercic
2023-07-11 1:27 ` Dmitry Gutov
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Philip Kaludercic @ 2023-07-10 18:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel; +Cc: Dmitry Gutov
The commentary section for project.el still begins with
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
;; NOTE: The project API is still experimental and can change in major,
;; backward-incompatible ways. Everyone is encouraged to try it, and
;; report to us any problems or use cases we hadn't anticipated, by
;; sending an email to emacs-devel, or `M-x report-emacs-bug'.
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
Is this still true, or would it be warranted to remove it just like we
did for Xref a few years ago (9a15694a45), perhaps even in time for
Emacs 29?
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* Re: Stability of project.el
2023-07-10 18:53 Stability of project.el Philip Kaludercic
@ 2023-07-11 1:27 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-07-11 5:26 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-04 10:35 ` Stefan Kangas
0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Dmitry Gutov @ 2023-07-11 1:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Philip Kaludercic, emacs-devel
Hi Philip,
On 10/07/2023 21:53, Philip Kaludercic wrote:
> The commentary section for project.el still begins with
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> ;; NOTE: The project API is still experimental and can change in major,
> ;; backward-incompatible ways. Everyone is encouraged to try it, and
> ;; report to us any problems or use cases we hadn't anticipated, by
> ;; sending an email to emacs-devel, or `M-x report-emacs-bug'.
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> Is this still true, or would it be warranted to remove it just like we
> did for Xref a few years ago (9a15694a45), perhaps even in time for
> Emacs 29?
I think that's a good idea. Even if there still some less-than-ideal
bits, we need to maintain it backward-compatibly, given the age.
And documentation-only changes should still be good for Emacs 29.
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* Re: Stability of project.el
2023-07-11 1:27 ` Dmitry Gutov
@ 2023-07-11 5:26 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-07-11 12:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-12 1:59 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-08-04 10:35 ` Stefan Kangas
1 sibling, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Philip Kaludercic @ 2023-07-11 5:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dmitry Gutov; +Cc: emacs-devel
Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev> writes:
> Hi Philip,
>
> On 10/07/2023 21:53, Philip Kaludercic wrote:
>> The commentary section for project.el still begins with
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>> ;; NOTE: The project API is still experimental and can change in major,
>> ;; backward-incompatible ways. Everyone is encouraged to try it, and
>> ;; report to us any problems or use cases we hadn't anticipated, by
>> ;; sending an email to emacs-devel, or `M-x report-emacs-bug'.
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>> Is this still true, or would it be warranted to remove it just like
>> we
>> did for Xref a few years ago (9a15694a45), perhaps even in time for
>> Emacs 29?
>
> I think that's a good idea. Even if there still some less-than-ideal
> bits, we need to maintain it backward-compatibly, given the age.
Great. Should the major version number also be bumped?
> And documentation-only changes should still be good for Emacs 29.
Eli, what do you say?
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* Re: Stability of project.el
2023-07-11 5:26 ` Philip Kaludercic
@ 2023-07-11 12:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-12 1:59 ` Dmitry Gutov
1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2023-07-11 12:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Philip Kaludercic; +Cc: dmitry, emacs-devel
> From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 05:26:35 +0000
>
> Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev> writes:
>
> > I think that's a good idea. Even if there still some less-than-ideal
> > bits, we need to maintain it backward-compatibly, given the age.
>
> Great. Should the major version number also be bumped?
>
> > And documentation-only changes should still be good for Emacs 29.
>
> Eli, what do you say?
This changes no code, so the decision is entirely up to Dmitry, and
AFAIU he already made the decision.
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* Re: Stability of project.el
2023-07-11 5:26 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-07-11 12:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2023-07-12 1:59 ` Dmitry Gutov
1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Dmitry Gutov @ 2023-07-12 1:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Philip Kaludercic; +Cc: emacs-devel
On 11/07/2023 08:26, Philip Kaludercic wrote:
> Great. Should the major version number also be bumped?
Let's not complicate things. We just declare the current versions in
Emacs 29 and 30 as "stable". No code change - so no version change
strictly necessary.
Though I suppose some of the users will only see the changed text after
the next version bump.
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* Re: Stability of project.el
2023-07-11 1:27 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-07-11 5:26 ` Philip Kaludercic
@ 2023-08-04 10:35 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-08-04 15:42 ` Dmitry Gutov
1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Kangas @ 2023-08-04 10:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dmitry Gutov; +Cc: Philip Kaludercic, emacs-devel
Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev> writes:
> I think that's a good idea. Even if there still some less-than-ideal
> bits, we need to maintain it backward-compatibly, given the age.
This was apparently never done, so I've now made that change on the
emacs-29 branch (commit 8cbd4a02a2b).
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* Re: Stability of project.el
2023-08-04 10:35 ` Stefan Kangas
@ 2023-08-04 15:42 ` Dmitry Gutov
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Dmitry Gutov @ 2023-08-04 15:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Kangas; +Cc: Philip Kaludercic, emacs-devel
On 04/08/2023 13:35, Stefan Kangas wrote:
> Dmitry Gutov<dmitry@gutov.dev> writes:
>
>> I think that's a good idea. Even if there still some less-than-ideal
>> bits, we need to maintain it backward-compatibly, given the age.
> This was apparently never done, so I've now made that change on the
> emacs-29 branch (commit 8cbd4a02a2b).
Thanks!
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