From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ulrich Mueller Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lib.gnulib.bugs,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Files from gnulib Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 21:00:16 +0100 Message-ID: <19775.11216.466200.975273@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> References: <87oc75t4tn.fsf@meyering.net> <19774.65395.502418.918605@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <83zkqoyg09.fsf@gnu.org> <19775.9490.134164.617950@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <83vd1cydss.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1295985644 4795 80.91.229.12 (25 Jan 2011 20:00:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 20:00:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, bug-gnulib@gnu.org, jim@meyering.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, roucaries.bastien@gmail.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnulib-bounces+gnu-bug-gnulib=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 25 21:00:37 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gnu-bug-gnulib@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Php49-0000eb-Gd for gnu-bug-gnulib@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 21:00:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52874 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Php48-0001nV-MO for gnu-bug-gnulib@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:00:36 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=34976 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Php3u-0001mx-DO for bug-gnulib@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:00:23 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Php3t-0000QQ-3h for bug-gnulib@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:00:22 -0500 Original-Received: from a1iwww1.kph.uni-mainz.de ([134.93.134.1]:58591) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Php3s-0000Q0-Nc; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:00:21 -0500 Original-Received: from a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de [134.93.134.92]) by a1iwww1.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.0/8.13.4) with ESMTP id p0PK0G4A001707; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 21:00:16 +0100 Original-Received: from a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.4/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p0PK0GVA002346; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 21:00:16 +0100 Original-Received: (from ulm@localhost) by a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p0PK0GjZ002345; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 21:00:16 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83vd1cydss.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: VM 8.1.1 under 23.2.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-BeenThere: bug-gnulib@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Gnulib discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnulib-bounces+gnu-bug-gnulib=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnulib-bounces+gnu-bug-gnulib=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lib.gnulib.bugs:24925 gmane.emacs.devel:134956 Archived-At: >>>>> On Tue, 25 Jan 2011, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> > Reality check: there were many changes made in CEDET due to admission >> > into the Emacs distribution. File-name changes were only a small part >> > of them, and the changes just moved some files into subdirectories, >> > such that foo-bar.el became foo/bar.el. >> >> Which still breaks compatibility, because (require 'foo-bar) in any >> elisp package will fail now. > And that was the single backward-incompatible change in CEDET? No, but your original statement was: "The costs are generally mine, and mine alone." These renamed files have to be taken account for in all packages using CEDET, and that means additional work for the upstreams of these packages and for distro builders. Therefore, at least in the case of CEDET, the costs are not yours alone.