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From: Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org>
To: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Case mapping of sharp s
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:10:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <19206.20213.843972.495981@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87iqd6gmpk.fsf@lola.goethe.zz>

>>>>> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, David Kastrup wrote:

>> I can guess why it's much slower going backward: the simple search
>> operates on chars rather than bytes. The internal encoding we use
>> (currently based on utf-8) is designed to be easy to parse going
>> forward but not so easy going backward (IIRC our encoding is
>> actually even a bit more painful in this case than pure utf-8).

> I don't think so. The utf-8 _scheme_ can be used to encode 21bits in
> 4 characters.

The original UTF-8 (specified in RFC 2279) was good for encoding of
the full range of 2^31 characters in up to 6 bytes. The limitation to
2^20.1 came later and is artificial.

> We stay within that range, in the utf-8 4 character scheme, but
> outside of the Unicode range 2^20+2^16.

character.h says it's up to 22 bits encoded in up to 5 bytes:

,----
|    character code	1st byte   byte sequence
|    --------------	--------   -------------
|         0-7F		00..7F	   0xxxxxxx
|        80-7FF		C2..DF	   110xxxxx 10xxxxxx
|       800-FFFF		E0..EF	   1110xxxx 10xxxxxx 10xxxxxx
|     10000-1FFFFF	F0..F7	   11110xxx 10xxxxxx 10xxxxxx 10xxxxxx
|    200000-3FFF7F	F8	   11111000 1000xxxx 10xxxxxx 10xxxxxx 10xxxxxx
|    3FFF80-3FFFFF	C0..C1	   1100000x 10xxxxxx (for eight-bit-char)
|    400000-...		invalid
`----

>> BM on the other hand works on bytes, so there's no such slowdown.

> With utf-8, I think that apart from character ranges, search forward and
> backward should work perfectly like on 8-bit characters.  Exception is
> incomplete character matches, but since the utf-8 scheme can immediately
> tell "is a 7-bit character" "is the first character of a multibyte
> sequence of length n" "is last or intermediate character of multibyte
> sequence" this is not a serious problem.

When the search is for equivalence classes of characters (e.g. case
folding), then I think it must operate on whole characters and
therefore has to find the start of each multibyte sequence.

Ulrich




  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-11-20  8:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-19 19:48 Case mapping of sharp s grischka
2009-11-19 21:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-19 22:43   ` David Kastrup
2009-11-20  2:08     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-20  8:03       ` David Kastrup
2009-11-20 14:14         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-20  3:41     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-20  4:20       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-20  7:13         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-21  0:02           ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-21 12:39             ` David Kastrup
2009-11-21 17:40               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-21 19:15                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-22  2:58                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-22  4:28                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-22  8:27                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-23  1:30                 ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-21 22:52               ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-20  8:10     ` Ulrich Mueller [this message]
2009-11-20 11:46       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-20 14:43         ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-21  4:33           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-19 23:25   ` grischka
2009-11-20  2:11     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-21  3:08       ` grischka
2009-11-21  8:58         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-21  9:33           ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-21 11:45             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-21 15:33           ` grischka
2009-11-21 10:41         ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-21 11:58           ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-21 17:01             ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-22 12:11               ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-22 20:15                 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-24 12:26             ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-24 19:23               ` grischka
2009-11-25  2:13                 ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-26 13:07                   ` grischka
2009-11-29 22:03                   ` Juri Linkov
2009-11-30  1:22                     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-30  1:28                     ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-30  1:36                       ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-30  7:01                     ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-30 12:01                       ` Juri Linkov
2009-11-30 13:09                         ` martin rudalics
2009-11-30 21:57                       ` Juri Linkov
2009-11-30 22:34                         ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-12-01  0:02                           ` Juri Linkov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-11-15 14:29 Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-16 12:06 ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-16 16:38   ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-17  7:36     ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-17 21:23       ` Reiner Steib
2009-11-16 19:12   ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-17  7:43     ` martin rudalics
2009-11-17  7:49     ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-17 18:56       ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-18  1:00         ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-18  4:09           ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-18  5:33             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-18  6:26             ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-18 14:44               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-18 19:05                 ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-19  1:16                   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-18 17:58               ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-19  1:57                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull

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