From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ulrich Mueller Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs 23.1 flushes stdin on startup Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:12:38 +0200 Message-ID: <19096.61702.871626.706526@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> References: <4A789738.8090008@roaringpenguin.com> <87r5vquzrc.fsf@jumptrading.com> <87vdkukt0s.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87hbvsauii.fsf@lifelogs.com> <19096.1406.831975.819484@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <87zl9jmken.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1251537181 7592 80.91.229.12 (29 Aug 2009 09:13:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 09:13:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ted Zlatanov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 29 11:12:54 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MhJzS-0007j3-CQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:12:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49362 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MhJzR-0007Ew-GC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 05:12:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MhJzL-0007Di-UH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 05:12:47 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MhJzI-0007D4-0c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 05:12:47 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37147 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MhJzH-0007D1-P8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 05:12:43 -0400 Original-Received: from a1iwww1.kph.uni-mainz.de ([134.93.134.1]:49304) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MhJzH-00010p-3s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 05:12:43 -0400 Original-Received: from a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de [134.93.134.92]) by a1iwww1.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.0/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n7T9CdKN013637; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:12:39 +0200 Original-Received: from a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7T9Cd60012515; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:12:39 +0200 Original-Received: (from ulm@localhost) by a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7T9CcT4012512; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:12:38 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87zl9jmken.fsf@lifelogs.com> X-Mailer: VM 8.0.12 under 23.1.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:114830 Archived-At: >>>>> On Fri, 28 Aug 2009, Ted Zlatanov wrote: UM> Isn't there any better solution? For example, can't the pending input UM> be saved and stuffed back into the input buffer, instead of discarding UM> it? > Emacs already tries to DTRT so this overrides it when the user wants > or it can't guess accurately. > See http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help/66789 for the original > post. I had read that post. The question is if discarding the input is really necessary, or if it could be saved somehow? > I think (from looking at the code) that doing it without a variable > would require much more complicated code, and the benefit would be > small. The benefit would be that pending input wasn't discarded in the default configuration. Ulrich