From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: `C-b' is backward-char, `left' is left-char - why? Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 17:39:52 -0700 Message-ID: <1905F82F81C54CF6B063E694DAAD92B5@us.oracle.com> References: <6F4054004B154CFB8E2753172D316C13@us.oracle.com><83tycfc0l0.fsf@gnu.org><392401A7079D400E86B791262598387D@us.oracle.com><707AB93AD8B44FF38153911DD6D0E21A@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1306543211 21743 80.91.229.12 (28 May 2011 00:40:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 00:40:11 +0000 (UTC) To: "'PJ Weisberg'" , Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 28 02:40:05 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QQ7ZU-00066G-Mf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 May 2011 02:40:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51867 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QQ7ZU-00065L-1K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 May 2011 20:40:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:42688) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QQ7ZQ-000641-RK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 May 2011 20:40:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QQ7ZP-0001vD-Sq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 May 2011 20:40:00 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]:41439) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QQ7ZP-0001v9-Mg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 May 2011 20:39:59 -0400 Original-Received: from rtcsinet22.oracle.com (rtcsinet22.oracle.com [66.248.204.30]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id p4S0dupF022444 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 28 May 2011 00:39:58 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by rtcsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p4S0dstr015998 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 28 May 2011 00:39:55 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt021.oracle.com (abhmt021.oracle.com [141.146.116.30]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p4S0dneJ014132; Fri, 27 May 2011 19:39:49 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.48.151) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 27 May 2011 17:39:49 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcwczdXv4Bb63DU8Q5Gc06elU5pAHQAAREfw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6090 X-Source-IP: rtcsinet22.oracle.com [66.248.204.30] X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090209.4DE0445E.0052:SCFSTAT5015188,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 148.87.113.121 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:139799 Archived-At: > >> > Enabling (or disabling) as an option - is that impossible? > >> > >> Certainly not. =A0You can set the option like so: > >> (global-set-key (kbd "") 'backward-char) > > > > Not at all what I meant, as you no doubt know. >=20 > I know, but is it worse than "(setq backward-is-always-left t)"? Of course it is. It affects only one command. Presumably your option = would affect all or most of the commands that are directional. The point was that the default bindings of various commands have come in = sets, and we are breaking up some of those sets. Again, not the end of the world. The question was whether this is necessary. Besides, that's hardly the option I would opt for. More like (setq bidify-emacs nil). Or (setq bidi-hands-off-default-keys t).