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From: "T. V. Raman" <raman@users.sf.net>
To: cyd@stupidchicken.com
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, raman@users.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: line-move-visual never set to nil?
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:38:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <18571.32039.151433.449795@gargle.gargle.HOWL> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87od4k1nj5.fsf@stupidchicken.com>

I think line-move-visual should start off set consistent with
visual-line-mode. I also think it should be renamed to match with
visual-line-mode -- ie visual-line-move -- not line-move-visual
--- otherwise users will never be able to discover and set it.

>>>>> "Chong" == Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com> writes:
    Chong> "T. V. Raman" <raman@users.sourceforge.net> writes:
    >> As reported a few minutes ago, turning off
    >> visual-line-mode has no effect. The apparent reason being:
    >> line-move-visual remains set to T and that is what the
    >> code in functions next-line and previous-line refers to.
    Chong> 
    Chong> Now, line-move-visual is a defcustom.  The question
    Chong> is, whether it should default to nil or t (even when
    Chong> visual-line-mode is off).  The current default is t,
    Chong> which is a kind of hybrid model where line-move uses
    Chong> screen lines but other editing commands use logical
    Chong> lines.
    Chong> 
    Chong> Like Stefan and others, I've found that this setting
    Chong> works pretty well in practice, for buffers in which
    Chong> there are occasional continued lines.  (When the
    Chong> buffer is full of long lines, turning on
    Chong> visual-line-mode is more appropriate.)
    Chong> 
    Chong> It's true, though, that this behavior could be
    Chong> confusing, especially for longtime users of Emacs.  So
    Chong> maybe we ought to make line-move-visual default to
    Chong> nil, as before, and leave it to advanced users to
    Chong> change it to t for their own usage.
    Chong> 
    Chong> What's the opinion of others on this list?
    Chong> 

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-26 19:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-26 17:43 line-move-visual never set to nil? T. V. Raman
2008-07-26 18:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-26 18:40   ` Vinicius Jose Latorre
2008-07-26 18:44     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-26 18:48   ` David Reitter
2008-07-26 18:57 ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-26 19:38   ` T. V. Raman [this message]
2008-07-26 19:41     ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-27 18:46   ` David Reitter
2008-07-27 20:59     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-27 21:08       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-28  0:23         ` T. V. Raman
2008-07-29  7:43       ` Andrew W. Nosenko
2008-07-29 14:34         ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-29 14:43           ` Lennart Borgman
2008-07-29 16:27           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-29 18:31             ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-29 18:37               ` David Reitter
2008-07-29 19:18                 ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-29 19:23                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-29 19:59                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-29 21:23                   ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-30  0:31                 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-30  0:42                   ` David Reitter
2008-07-30  3:46           ` Richard M Stallman
2008-07-30  4:43             ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-30  4:56               ` Miles Bader
2008-07-30  7:59               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-31 17:24             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-31 23:34               ` Miles Bader
2008-07-31 23:38                 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-01  0:25                   ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-01  0:27                     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-01  0:29                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-01  0:58                       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-01  1:01                         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-01  1:49                           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-08-01  8:43                             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-01 18:19                           ` Richard M Stallman
2008-08-01 19:06                             ` Chong Yidong
2008-08-01 19:29                               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-01  0:33                   ` Miles Bader
2008-08-01  0:37                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-01  0:46                       ` Miles Bader
2008-08-01  0:50                         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-01 10:16                         ` Andrew W. Nosenko
2008-08-01  4:43               ` Richard M Stallman

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