From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "T. V. Raman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: 23.0.60: slower in starting up? Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 06:10:32 -0700 Message-ID: <18439.19528.514778.503054@gargle.gargle.HOWL> References: <18436.43956.847938.791489@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <18437.23883.262612.339482@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87zlrulao0.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Reply-To: raman@users.sf.net NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1208438983 18234 80.91.229.12 (17 Apr 2008 13:29:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:29:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: claus.klingberg@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, raman@users.sourceforge.net To: cyd@stupidchicken.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 17 15:30:07 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JmTzL-0006dm-DR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:17:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JmTyg-0003I5-Gg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:16:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JmTt8-0007dc-4R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:10:54 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JmTt4-0007cv-57 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:10:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JmTt3-0007cl-Tw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:10:49 -0400 Original-Received: from qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.48]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JmTt3-0007mt-LJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:10:49 -0400 Original-Received: from OMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.43]) by QMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id EcJ21Z0020vyq2s5504A00; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:08:46 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([71.202.191.236]) by OMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id EdAY1Z00R56Ur8v3R00000; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:10:34 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Hq7T3A6_c3kA:10 a=il4tx-RQ2-gA:10 a=2z1OXlWFAAAA:8 a=sp4hwBI5-uYPsNvxY1oA:9 a=FD8lZtXNYKbKLdyGn_ocLWpNg8sA:4 a=5o1NfpFvE1MA:10 a=dAUg0o1D4TkA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=CJy22Bi2yBEA:10 Original-Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A112512A41BF; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 06:10:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87zlrulao0.fsf@stupidchicken.com> X-Mailer: VM 8.1.0-devo-509 under Emacs 23.0.60.8 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) x-attribution: tvr X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:95403 Archived-At: quite possible that it's the packages I'm loading; will have to set debug-on-quit to t at start up and interrupt it to see where it's stopping. For now I've gone back to the snapshot from Feb 1, 2008 -- there are too many things that are breaking with respect to keybindings from packages I load. Simple example is mspools -- with the cvs trunk builds, 'n' and 'p' dont get bound. I'm having similar issues with packages like W3 that are not bundled with emacs. >>>>> "Chong" == Chong Yidong writes: Chong> "T. V. Raman" writes: >> I'm running on alinux console with the monitor turned off, >> so I couldn't care less about the fonts in use;-) Chong> Chong> The starting time for emacs -nw is close to Chong> instantaneous---less than 1 second before Emacs is Chong> ready for input---with no discernible performance Chong> regression compared to Emacs 22. With the font Chong> backend turned on, the startup time is much slower, Chong> but clearly this isn't what you're talking about. Chong> Chong> Maybe some of the packages you're loading take much Chong> longer to load in Emacs 23, for some reason? Chong> -- Best Regards, --raman Email: raman@users.sf.net WWW: http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/ AIM: emacspeak GTalk: tv.raman.tv@gmail.com PGP: http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/raman-almaden.asc Google: tv+raman IRC: irc://irc.freenode.net/#emacs