From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "T. V. Raman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: 23.0.60: slower in starting up? Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:58:35 -0700 Message-ID: <18437.23883.262612.339482@gargle.gargle.HOWL> References: <18436.43956.847938.791489@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Reply-To: raman@users.sf.net NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1208322619 28656 80.91.229.12 (16 Apr 2008 05:10:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 05:10:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: raman@users.sf.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: claus.klingberg@gmail.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 16 07:10:49 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jlww0-0001UV-9c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 03:59:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JlwvL-0005rK-St for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:58:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JlwvH-0005rE-NC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:58:55 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JlwvH-0005qx-59 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:58:55 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JlwvH-0005qu-0F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:58:55 -0400 Original-Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.32]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JlwvG-0007Xh-MB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:58:54 -0400 Original-Received: from OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.60]) by QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id E1PH1Z00B1HzFnQ5301800; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 01:57:17 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([71.202.191.236]) by OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id E1yb1Z00L56Ur8v3a00000; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 01:58:36 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Hq7T3A6_c3kA:10 a=il4tx-RQ2-gA:10 a=2z1OXlWFAAAA:8 a=vJ9jlHH-88Ye8EUkPCUA:9 a=wht7qaKmtF3vsGDgLaT0lzhRYRsA:4 a=5o1NfpFvE1MA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=CWfAmLVWKswA:10 Original-Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4F8CF12A41BF; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:58:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 8.1.0-devo-509 under Emacs 23.0.60.8 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) x-attribution: tvr X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:95330 Archived-At: I'm running on alinux console with the monitor turned off, so I couldn't care less about the fonts in use;-) >>>>> "Claus" =3D=3D Claus writes: Claus> Well, as mentioned before in other threads, Emacs Claus> 23.0.60 using the new (default) font-backend is Claus> (depending on your architecture I guess) sometimes Claus> magnitudes (hope no one will flame me for using this Claus> word) slower for me, esp. on buffer navigation (C-n, Claus> C-p, ...). Claus>=20 Claus> But that's probably the price to pay when surfing on Claus> the bleeding edge trunk-builds. I'm confident the Claus> developers will bring back the usual performance and Claus> stability eventually. Claus>=20 Claus> You could try starting Emacs with Claus> --disable-font-backend which should bring back Claus> performance. But on my system, Emacs crashes during Claus> startup when doing this (hard to reproduce and on Claus> changing lines in my startup file). So I have no other Claus> choice but bear with the new font-backend, hope it Claus> shall stabilize soon. Claus>=20 Claus> Claus Claus>=20 Claus>=20 Claus> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 3:20 PM, T. V. Raman Claus> wrote: >> With the same .emacs I use for 23.0.50, ie loading all the >> same packages, startup of 23.0.60 feels many orders of >> magnitude slower than 23.0.50. Have others run into this=3F >>=20 >> -- >> Best Regards, --raman >>=20 >>=20 >> Email: raman@users.sf.net WWW: >> http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/ AIM: emacspeak GTalk: >> tv.raman.tv@gmail.com PGP: >> http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/raman-almaden.asc Google: >> tv+raman IRC: irc://irc.freenode.net/#emacs >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 Claus>=20 --=20 Mit freundlichem Gru=DF, Claus Klingberg -- Best Regards, --raman Email: raman@users.sf.net WWW: http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/ AIM: emacspeak GTalk: tv.raman.tv@gmail.com PGP: http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/raman-almaden.asc Google: tv+raman IRC: irc://irc.freenode.net/#emacs