From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nick Roberts Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Re: incomplete comment colorization in terminals Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:21:09 +1300 Message-ID: <18393.50421.367537.81004@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> References: <20080311231514.B718249C0BB@daedalus.stanford.edu> <200803120644.m2C6i8fa000584@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <18391.37244.140676.65895@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <200803130638.m2D6cILZ010032@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200803132244.m2DMioqZ025396@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205455894 8950 80.91.229.12 (14 Mar 2008 00:51:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 00:51:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: riepel@networking.stanford.edu, emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org To: Dan Nicolaescu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 14 01:52:00 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JZy9P-0007BO-1Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:51:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JZy8p-0001CB-Ob for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:51:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JZy8m-0001C6-Bn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:51:20 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JZy8h-0001Bu-Vq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:51:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JZy8h-0001Br-M3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:51:15 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JZy8h-0002pI-HH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:51:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JZy8h-0006i0-51 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:51:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JZy8e-0002oe-A4 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:51:15 -0400 Original-Received: from viper.snap.net.nz ([202.37.101.8]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JZy8a-0002mn-I2; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:51:08 -0400 Original-Received: from kahikatea.snap.net.nz (217.61.255.123.dynamic.snap.net.nz [123.255.61.217]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E533D9EB9; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:21:13 +1300 (NZDT) Original-Received: by kahikatea.snap.net.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 636608FC6D; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:21:10 +1300 (NZDT) In-Reply-To: <200803132244.m2DMioqZ025396@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 22.1.91.2 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:92459 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:21564 Archived-At: Dan Nicolaescu writes: > Richard Stallman writes: > > > We can actually completely get rid of `font-lock-comment-delimiter-face' > > if the color for the dark background, 8 colors is changed to "yellow". > > "yellow" is very readable on a black background. It will appear as > > orange on the Linux console, which is also very readable. > > > > I tried that in `font-lock-comment-face', and it is ok, > > In that case, please let's go with that solution, it is the lower > complexity solution, and less surprising for the user. We have gotten a > few bug reports from users that were confused by this (it is not > immediately intuitive). I feel that you're using journalistic techniques to steam roller through your wishes. Let's look at the full quote: I tried that in `font-lock-comment-face', and it is ok, but having the text in white is clearer and easier to read. I think it conveys quite a different impression. All these stylistic changes that you are making are probably not worth arguing about but I think you should look for some real agreement that they are an improvement before making them. -- Nick http://www.inet.net.nz/~nickrob