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From: "Björn Bidar" <bjorn.bidar@thaodan.de>
To: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: Xiyue Deng <manphiz@gmail.com>,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Tree-sitter maturity
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2024 17:09:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1836.0157426045$1735485007@news.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1tQfWN-0000ya-7F@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed, 25 Dec 2024 23:30:51 -0500")

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
>
>   > Not sure whether this has been mentioned: there is a "treesit-auto"[1]
>   > addon on melpa that can detect missing treesitter grammars and handle
>   > their installation automatically.  It would be great if something
>   > similar can be integrated into core, and if possible, grammar version
>   > handling and compatibility with distribution supplied grammar would be
>   > good to have.
>
> If we add something like this to Emacs, there is an issue we need to
> take care about: to make carefully sure that it does not install
> any nonfree grammars.  I don't know how those grammars are released,
> ir by whom, or how much they care about free software.  We can't
> take for granted that they do.

Grammars are built from source (exluding the parser.c blob which I
mentioned a few messages early maybe). No blob which has not been built
from source is loaded into Emacs.

> Perhaps we could check automatically that the grammar found is properly
> licenses, and disregard any grammars that are not free.

Who decides what grammar is free or not? It is not Emacs to judge to restrict
user freedom. What you described is akin to Free-Software DRM. 



  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-12-29 15:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 195+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-20 15:13 My resignation from Emacs development Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-20 15:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-20 16:23 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-21  6:22   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-21 10:05     ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-21 11:23       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-21 11:40         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-21 10:29   ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-21 12:26     ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-20 16:42 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-11-20 17:04 ` tomas
2024-11-20 21:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-21  2:28 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-11-21 12:34   ` Tree-sitter maturity (was: My resignation from Emacs development) Peter Oliver
2024-11-23 13:41     ` Stefan Kangas
2024-11-24  2:10     ` Tree-sitter maturity Björn Bidar
     [not found]     ` <67428b3d.c80a0220.2f3036.adbdSMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2024-12-17 22:11       ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-18 13:34         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-19  1:40           ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-19  8:17             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-20  9:13             ` Björn Bidar
     [not found]             ` <6765355b.c80a0220.1a6b24.3117SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2024-12-20  9:29               ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-23  0:43                 ` Björn Bidar
     [not found]                 ` <6768b256.c80a0220.222b1b.64e6SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2024-12-24  1:20                   ` Yuan Fu
     [not found]                 ` <87frmfxm8y.fsf@>
2024-12-24  4:52                   ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-24 12:32                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-24 21:31                       ` Xiyue Deng
2024-12-26  4:30                         ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-27 10:54                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-27 12:40                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-27 13:46                               ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-27 14:19                                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-27 14:24                                   ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-27 14:57                                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-27 15:02                                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-29  4:19                                         ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-29  4:23                                           ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29  7:44                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-29  8:01                                               ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29  8:41                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-29  8:59                                                   ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-29  9:14                                                     ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29  9:24                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-29 10:01                                                         ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29 13:35                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-29 20:12                                                             ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29 10:13                                                       ` tomas
2024-12-29 10:21                                                       ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-29 14:59                                                         ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29 14:14                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-12-29  7:26                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                         ` <904957B9-55C1-42DF-BE6A-16986A4B539A@dancol.org>
     [not found]                                           ` <87r05o2eji.fsf@posteo.net>
     [not found]                                             ` <E2C32D27-EEC2-4DD2-B6F6-8827820B880E@dancol.org>
2024-12-31 16:47                                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-29 14:36                                     ` Lynn Winebarger
2024-12-29 20:36                                       ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29 23:29                                         ` Björn Bidar
     [not found]                                         ` <6771db94.050a0220.386e00.e451SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2024-12-30  0:30                                           ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-30  0:36                                             ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-30  1:00                                               ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-31  9:48                                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-30  3:20                                             ` Lynn Winebarger
2024-12-31  3:22                                             ` Björn Bidar
2024-12-31 22:29                                         ` Lynn Winebarger
2025-01-01 20:23                                           ` Björn Bidar
2024-12-28 12:20                                   ` Peter Oliver
2024-12-28 12:23                                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-29 14:50                                     ` Björn Bidar
2024-12-27 14:59                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-27 15:05                                   ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-27 15:31                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-27 15:37                                       ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-28  1:08                                       ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-29  4:19                                         ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-29  4:21                                           ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29  6:41                                             ` tomas
2024-12-29  6:43                                               ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29  6:54                                                 ` tomas
2024-12-29  7:05                                                   ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29  8:56                                                     ` tomas
2024-12-29 15:16                                                   ` Björn Bidar
2024-12-29 15:05                                     ` Björn Bidar
     [not found]                                     ` <87ed1qedhl.fsf@>
2024-12-29 15:21                                       ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29 16:02                                         ` Björn Bidar
     [not found]                                         ` <663726A2-141B-4B98-80FB-BD93E99AC122@dancol.org>
2024-12-29 19:06                                           ` Björn Bidar
     [not found]                                           ` <6771d84b.050a0220.250914.d0e0SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2024-12-30  0:56                                             ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-27 14:11                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-27 15:06                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 13:47                                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-27 18:29                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-28  7:55                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28  8:11                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-28  8:58                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-29 15:09                           ` Björn Bidar [this message]
2024-12-26  4:32                       ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-26  7:12                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-29 14:35                         ` Björn Bidar
2024-12-19 12:23           ` Peter Oliver
2024-12-19 12:42             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-19 13:15             ` Vincenzo Pupillo
2024-12-20  8:59           ` Björn Bidar
2024-11-21 13:01   ` My resignation from Emacs development Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-21 13:48     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-21 14:29       ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-11-22  0:01         ` Po Lu
2024-11-22  7:03           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-22  8:14             ` Robert Pluim
2024-11-22  8:32               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-22 23:59               ` Po Lu
2024-11-23  6:39                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-21 16:29       ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-22  5:35     ` Adam Porter
2024-11-22  7:24       ` Madhu
2024-11-22  8:11         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-22  9:26           ` Madhu
2024-11-22 12:07             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-22 12:40           ` Stefan Kangas
2024-11-22 13:06           ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-22 13:39             ` Stefan Kangas
2024-11-22 14:25             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-25  4:28             ` Richard Stallman
2024-11-26 17:37               ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-12-13  4:35                 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-15 15:27                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-12-15 15:48                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-15 20:43                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-12-19  4:22                     ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-19  8:26                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-23 22:18           ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-22 10:57       ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-22 23:19         ` Adam Porter
2024-11-26 19:01       ` Daniel Radetsky
2024-11-26 19:51         ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-27  2:18           ` Adam Porter
2024-11-27  9:36             ` Daniel Radetsky
2024-11-27  9:59             ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-30  3:52             ` Richard Stallman
2024-11-30  7:53               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-30 16:22                 ` Discuss new features/enhancements or large changes for users in emacs-devel [was: My resignation from Emacs development] Drew Adams
2024-11-30 16:56                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-30 21:06                     ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-12-01  6:00                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-03  7:26                 ` My resignation from Emacs development Richard Stallman
2024-12-03 13:33                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-30 16:21               ` Discuss new features/enhancements or large changes for users in emacs-devel [was My resignation from Emacs development] Drew Adams
2024-11-30 17:05                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-30 21:09                   ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-12-01  6:12                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-01 19:23                       ` Drew Adams
2024-12-03  7:25                   ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-03 13:32                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-06  4:48                       ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-02  4:09                 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-02 13:04                   ` Discuss new features/enhancements or large changes for users in emacs-devel Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-02 15:32                     ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-12-05  5:08                     ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-05  6:33                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-02 15:29                   ` [External] : Re: Discuss new features/enhancements or large changes for users in emacs-devel [was My resignation from Emacs development] Drew Adams
2024-11-27  2:06         ` My resignation from Emacs development Adam Porter
2024-11-27  9:17           ` Daniel Radetsky
2024-11-22 15:36     ` Stefan Kangas
2024-11-22 17:48       ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-23 23:43     ` Stefan Monnier via Emacs development discussions.
2024-11-23  6:10   ` Richard Stallman
2024-11-23  7:48     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-23 11:06       ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-23 11:54         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-23 12:48           ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-23 23:59       ` Adam Porter
2024-12-01  3:50         ` Sean Whitton
2024-12-01  6:19           ` tomas
2024-11-24 18:12     ` Suhail Singh
2024-11-26  4:56       ` Richard Stallman
2024-11-26  7:38         ` Suhail Singh
2024-11-21  5:59 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-22 11:36   ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-22 11:52     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-23 10:36       ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-23 11:31         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-21 13:39 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-21 19:01   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-11-21 19:19     ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-21 19:47     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-21 19:40 ` Jim Porter
2024-11-24  4:35   ` Richard Stallman
2024-11-21 23:57 ` Po Lu
2024-11-22 17:26 ` On committing significant and/or controversial changes (was: My resignation from Emacs development) Ihor Radchenko
2024-11-22 17:47   ` Ship Mints
2024-11-22 19:04     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-24  2:35       ` On committing significant and/or controversial changes Björn Bidar
2024-11-24  4:41         ` Adam Porter
2024-11-30  2:16           ` Björn Bidar
     [not found]       ` <87ttbx73zu.fsf@>
2024-11-24  8:26         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-22 19:01   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-23  6:10 ` My resignation from Emacs development Richard Stallman
2024-11-23  8:50   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-23  6:10 ` Richard Stallman

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