* Emacs CVS And VM Breakages
@ 2008-02-12 14:29 T. V. Raman
2008-02-13 2:42 ` Miles Bader
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From: T. V. Raman @ 2008-02-12 14:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel
I reverted to CVS version of Feb 1, and all of the problems I
reported earlier e.g. VM losing the body of a message on sending
have disappeared.
The problem returns if I move to CVS from Feb 4.
Here are the breakages I saw --- initially I suspected dbus
because I Had recently enabled it in my config for the build,
and I dont run X on my machine. That might still be a factor ---
not sure.
Weirdness I observed:
0) All vm send commands lost the message body.
1) mspools.el -- only some of the keybindings defined in mspools
mode were available -- for example 'n' and 'q' were not bound.
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2008-02-12 14:29 Emacs CVS And VM Breakages T. V. Raman
@ 2008-02-13 2:42 ` Miles Bader
2008-02-14 14:17 ` T. V. Raman
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From: Miles Bader @ 2008-02-13 2:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: raman; +Cc: emacs-devel
"T. V. Raman" <raman@users.sf.net> writes:
> I reverted to CVS version of Feb 1, and all of the problems I
> reported earlier e.g. VM losing the body of a message on sending
> have disappeared.
The internal representation of non-ASCII text in Emacs has changed (it
is now based on a superset of utf8, rather than the old "emacs-mule"
encoding).
My recollection (from years past though) is that VM has historically
been a bit flaky about handling non-ASCII text, so it's not surprising
such a change would expose bugs in VM. I'd suggest contacting the VM
maintainer.
-Miles
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2, a beautiful and attractive young woman in wickedness a league beyond the
Devil.
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* Re: Emacs CVS And VM Breakages
2008-02-13 2:42 ` Miles Bader
@ 2008-02-14 14:17 ` T. V. Raman
2008-02-14 15:03 ` Stefan Monnier
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From: T. V. Raman @ 2008-02-14 14:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: miles; +Cc: raman, emacs-devel
I sent email to the current maintainer of VM.
Note however that that was not the only breakage -- see bits
about mspools.el.
In general things felt sufficiently broken to cause me to roll back.
>>>>> "Miles" == Miles Bader <miles.bader@necel.com> writes:
Miles> "T. V. Raman" <raman@users.sf.net> writes:
>> I reverted to CVS version of Feb 1, and all of the
>> problems I reported earlier e.g. VM losing the body of a
>> message on sending have disappeared.
Miles>
Miles> The internal representation of non-ASCII text in Emacs
Miles> has changed (it is now based on a superset of utf8,
Miles> rather than the old "emacs-mule" encoding).
Miles>
Miles> My recollection (from years past though) is that VM
Miles> has historically been a bit flaky about handling
Miles> non-ASCII text, so it's not surprising such a change
Miles> would expose bugs in VM. I'd suggest contacting the
Miles> VM maintainer.
Miles>
Miles> -Miles
Miles>
Miles> -- Witch, n. 1, an ugly and repulsive old woman in a
Miles> wicked league with the Devil; 2, a beautiful and
Miles> attractive young woman in wickedness a league beyond
Miles> the Devil.
--
Best Regards,
--raman
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2008-02-14 14:17 ` T. V. Raman
@ 2008-02-14 15:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-15 3:50 ` T. V. Raman
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From: Stefan Monnier @ 2008-02-14 15:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: raman; +Cc: emacs-devel, miles
> In general things felt sufficiently broken to cause me to roll back.
Well, this *is* "in development bleeding edge" code,
Stefan
>>>>> "Miles" == Miles Bader <miles.bader@necel.com> writes:
Miles> "T. V. Raman" <raman@users.sf.net> writes:
>>> I reverted to CVS version of Feb 1, and all of the
>>> problems I reported earlier e.g. VM losing the body of a
>>> message on sending have disappeared.
Miles>
Miles> The internal representation of non-ASCII text in Emacs
Miles> has changed (it is now based on a superset of utf8,
Miles> rather than the old "emacs-mule" encoding).
Miles>
Miles> My recollection (from years past though) is that VM
Miles> has historically been a bit flaky about handling
Miles> non-ASCII text, so it's not surprising such a change
Miles> would expose bugs in VM. I'd suggest contacting the
Miles> VM maintainer.
Miles>
Miles> -Miles
Miles>
Miles> -- Witch, n. 1, an ugly and repulsive old woman in a
Miles> wicked league with the Devil; 2, a beautiful and
Miles> attractive young woman in wickedness a league beyond
Miles> the Devil.
> --
> Best Regards,
> --raman
> Email: raman@users.sf.net
> WWW: http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/
> AIM: emacspeak GTalk: tv.raman.tv@gmail.com
> PGP: http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/raman-almaden.asc
> Google: tv+raman
> IRC: irc://irc.freenode.net/#emacs
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2008-02-14 15:03 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2008-02-15 3:50 ` T. V. Raman
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From: T. V. Raman @ 2008-02-15 3:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: monnier; +Cc: miles, raman, emacs-devel
Well, Iwas reporting a breakage. I didn't assert it shouldn't be
broken; on the other hand, how would you know that it was broken
if no one told you?
>>>>> "Stefan" == Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>> In general things felt sufficiently broken to cause me to
>> roll back.
Stefan> Well, this *is* "in development bleeding edge" code,
Stefan>
Stefan>
Stefan> Stefan
Stefan>
Stefan>
>>>>>> "Miles" == Miles Bader <miles.bader@necel.com> writes:
Miles> "T. V. Raman" <raman@users.sf.net> writes:
>>>> I reverted to CVS version of Feb 1, and all of the
>>>> problems I reported earlier e.g. VM losing the body of a
>>>> message on sending have disappeared.
Miles>
Miles> The internal representation of non-ASCII text in Emacs
Miles> has changed (it is now based on a superset of utf8,
Miles> rather than the old "emacs-mule" encoding).
Miles>
Miles> My recollection (from years past though) is that VM
Miles> has historically been a bit flaky about handling
Miles> non-ASCII text, so it's not surprising such a change
Miles> would expose bugs in VM. I'd suggest contacting the
Miles> VM maintainer.
Miles>
Miles> -Miles
Miles>
Miles> -- Witch, n. 1, an ugly and repulsive old woman in a
Miles> wicked league with the Devil; 2, a beautiful and
Miles> attractive young woman in wickedness a league beyond
Miles> the Devil.
Stefan>
>> --
> Best Regards, --raman
Stefan>
Stefan>
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>> tv+raman IRC: irc://irc.freenode.net/#emacs
Stefan>
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Best Regards,
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