From: Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: dann@ics.uci.edu, emacs@gentoo.org, eliz@gnu.org,
Jan Djärv <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: desupporting X10 and old X11 releases
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:52:10 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <18215.14090.751213.147896@a1ihome1.kph.uni-mainz.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1Ime8h-0006kc-BF@fencepost.gnu.org>
>>>>> On Mon, 29 Oct 2007, Richard Stallman wrote:
> Before we delete oldXMenu as an option, I want to ask users if anyone
> still wants it. Supporting it is not costing much effort, and it
> is not a matter of a platform that may have disappeared.
Here are some data from Gentoo (for both GNU/Linux and FreeBSD).
I have extracted the configuration information ("USE flags") from
GNU Emacs related bugs that were reported to us in 2006 and 2007.
(I didn't bother to correct for users reporting more than one bug,
so active users might have more than one "vote" in the table below.
It's not dominated by a small number of users though.)
The result is quite surprising (at least to me):
Toolkit Gentoo USE flags number
-----------------------------------------------------
gtk X gtk 80
athena / lucid X -gtk Xaw3d 2
motif / lesstif X -gtk -Xaw3d motif 2
no toolkit / oldXMenu X -gtk -Xaw3d -motif 18
no X -X 15
-----------------------------------------------------
The reason for the low numbers for "athena/lucid" and "motif/lesstif"
may be that the Gentoo ebuild always prefers "gtk" if the user
specifies more than one toolkit at the same time. (The raw numbers for
the USE flags are 21 times "X Xaw3d" and 40 times "X motif".)
However, the conclusion is that there seems to be a substantial number
of Emacs installations using either no X toolkit, or no X at all.
Ulrich
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-10-30 13:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 164+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-10-06 19:52 isearch multiple buffers Juri Linkov
2007-10-07 15:37 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-08 18:03 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-08 19:18 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-08 19:59 ` Eric Hanchrow
2007-10-08 22:52 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-11 9:25 ` Johan Bockgård
2007-10-11 9:45 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-11 14:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-11 23:48 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-11 17:41 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-11 23:52 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-12 8:42 ` Johan Bockgård
2007-10-12 15:59 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-12 16:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-20 0:08 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-21 7:26 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-21 20:37 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-21 23:39 ` Miles Bader
2007-10-21 23:50 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-10-22 0:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-22 1:01 ` Miles Bader
2007-10-23 7:12 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-23 8:17 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-23 17:53 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-23 20:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-23 21:44 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-10-24 4:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-25 2:10 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-24 8:33 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-23 20:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-23 23:33 ` Miles Bader
2007-10-24 0:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-24 4:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-24 5:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-24 19:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-24 4:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-24 4:51 ` Miles Bader
2007-10-24 18:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-24 23:55 ` Miles Bader
2007-10-25 4:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-25 6:21 ` Miles Bader
2007-10-25 20:55 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-25 21:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-25 11:02 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-10-25 22:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26 1:30 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-10-26 9:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26 10:05 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-10-29 0:08 ` Michael Olson
2007-10-26 15:16 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-26 15:32 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-10-26 15:36 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-26 15:42 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-10-26 18:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-26 19:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26 18:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26 18:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26 19:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26 19:41 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-26 20:01 ` Jason Rumney
2007-10-26 20:19 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-26 20:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26 20:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-27 13:57 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-27 15:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-28 13:50 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-27 17:28 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-27 22:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-28 13:50 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-28 13:50 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-28 16:45 ` desupporting X10 and old X11 releases (was: Re: isearch multiple buffers) Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-29 7:30 ` desupporting X10 and old X11 releases Jan Djärv
2007-10-29 19:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-30 7:33 ` Jan Djärv
2007-10-29 23:35 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-30 13:52 ` Ulrich Mueller [this message]
2007-10-31 7:46 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-29 9:21 ` desupporting X10 and old X11 releases (was: Re: isearch multiple buffers) Richard Stallman
2007-10-29 9:21 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-28 18:38 ` abandon K&R C ?(was: " Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-29 9:21 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-29 19:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-29 23:41 ` abandon K&R C ? Miles Bader
2007-10-29 7:21 ` isearch multiple buffers Jan Djärv
2007-10-29 23:35 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-31 3:35 ` remove support for Sun windows (was Re: isearch multiple buffers) Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-31 23:57 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-01 3:09 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-11-01 7:44 ` isearch multiple buffers Jan Djärv
2007-11-09 8:26 ` List of platforms to delete (was: Re: isearch multiple buffers) Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-25 6:47 ` isearch multiple buffers martin rudalics
2007-10-25 7:02 ` Miles Bader
2007-10-25 8:26 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-10-25 11:08 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-25 11:19 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-10-25 14:03 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-25 14:08 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-10-25 20:54 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-25 21:56 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-10-25 7:45 ` 8.3 filename restriction Kenichi Handa
2007-10-25 10:53 ` tomas
2007-10-25 22:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-25 12:36 ` martin rudalics
2007-10-25 22:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-25 21:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26 3:48 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-22 0:33 ` isearch multiple buffers Juri Linkov
2007-10-22 23:48 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-23 7:12 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-23 7:12 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-23 23:59 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-24 0:32 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-24 16:31 ` buffer order [was: isearch multiple buffers] Drew Adams
2007-10-25 0:47 ` buffer order Miles Bader
2007-10-24 21:33 ` isearch multiple buffers Juri Linkov
2007-10-24 22:52 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-24 8:33 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-24 21:23 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-25 9:01 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-25 20:57 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-25 21:51 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-26 23:05 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-27 0:01 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-10-27 0:19 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-27 7:22 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-10-27 16:20 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-27 22:54 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-27 23:37 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-28 1:31 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-28 13:50 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-28 15:03 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-29 9:21 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-27 23:41 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-28 0:18 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-28 1:32 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-28 3:22 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-28 4:14 ` Luc Teirlinck
2007-10-28 10:52 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-27 0:13 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-27 2:10 ` Miles Bader
2007-10-27 2:39 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-27 3:46 ` Miles Bader
2007-10-27 4:29 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-27 23:27 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-28 0:10 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-28 1:33 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-27 13:58 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-27 16:20 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-27 22:47 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-27 23:26 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-28 13:51 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-25 9:01 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-09 20:03 ` Richard Stallman
2008-07-20 0:40 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-20 4:11 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-20 19:34 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-20 17:21 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-07-20 19:38 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-21 3:29 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-07-21 9:07 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-21 6:53 ` Thomas Link
2008-07-21 9:09 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-21 10:42 ` Thomas Link
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