From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Roland Winkler" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: messages override minibuffer input Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 03:28:24 +0200 Message-ID: <18167.4792.543242.737218@tfkp07.physik.uni-erlangen.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190597322 23879 80.91.229.12 (24 Sep 2007 01:28:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 01:28:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 24 03:28:37 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IZckX-0006Nq-5r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 03:28:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IZckU-0000PK-8v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:28:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IZckQ-0000Nt-R8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:28:30 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IZckP-0000Nf-4J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:28:30 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IZckO-0000Nc-UG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:28:29 -0400 Original-Received: from tfkpsv.physik.uni-erlangen.de ([131.188.164.197]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IZckN-0003ql-Iz; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:28:27 -0400 Original-Received: from tfkp07.physik.uni-erlangen.de (tfkp07.physik.uni-erlangen.de [131.188.164.207]) by tfkpsv.physik.uni-erlangen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 170382124C; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 03:28:27 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 22.1.1 X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:79655 Archived-At: On Sun Sep 23 2007 Drew Adams wrote: > > If we put such messages at the end, that may cause the minibuffer > > to grow by a line. Would you find that disturbing? > > > > If not, perhaps the thing to do is to put the message below the > > current input, always growing the minibuffer. Or put the message > > above the minibuffer contents. What would you think of that? > > Please don't do that. In general, let's try to keep echo-area messages to > one line. If they happen to be so long that they wrap, so be it. So I'd > request that we append without a newline. Maybe I misunderstand something here. I thought that the question was about messages placed at the end of a minibuffer line. So if the minibuffer takes already 70 display columns and the message requires another 70 columns I don't know how the message could fit into a standard window with 80 display columns unless the message is wrapped. In such a (standard?) case it would seem more natural to me to put the message completely into a new line. (But I do agree that this might be a matter of personal preference.) If, on the other hand, the last line displayed in the minibuffer takes only 30 columns and the message is a short "Mismatched parentheses" then it would be sufficient to display the message at the end of that line. Roland