From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "T. V. Raman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Re: 23.0.50; delete vs deletechar Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 20:12:04 -0700 Message-ID: <18140.52484.336151.23820@gargle.gargle.HOWL> References: <20070901042330.B110A12A4547@localhost> <3dps10x3u7.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <18139.14467.145361.986008@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <2tir6sgufp.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <18140.20033.201160.345776@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Reply-To: raman@users.sf.net NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1188875539 10835 80.91.229.12 (4 Sep 2007 03:12:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 03:12:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rgm@gnu.org, raman@users.sf.net, emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 04 05:12:18 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ISOpu-0000KA-81 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 05:12:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ISOps-0003bt-Ls for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 23:12:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ISOpp-0003bl-6O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 23:12:13 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ISOpm-0003aX-Kl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 23:12:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ISOpm-0003aN-I9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 23:12:10 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ISOpm-0006Zd-BF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 23:12:10 -0400 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ISOpX-0000Ja-Jq for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 23:11:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ISOpi-0006Yx-Ea for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 23:12:09 -0400 Original-Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([204.127.192.84]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ISOpi-0006Yj-5X; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 23:12:06 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (c-71-202-191-236.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[71.202.191.236]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with ESMTP id <20070904031205m1400kg0l0e>; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 03:12:05 +0000 Original-Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CE13412A4547; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 20:12:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM alpha-478 under Emacs 23.0.50.5 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) x-attribution: tvr X-Detected-Kernel: NetCache Data OnTap 5.x X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:77712 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:19725 Archived-At: To clarify, I spotted two issues that are tangled up -- here is an attempt to separate them. 1. What should pressing the key on the linux console deliver? [delete] or [deletechar] I ask this independent of the command that that key invokes --- purely for knowing what should be used in lisp code that binds that key. 2. When one launches Emacs on the console, and then runs emacsclient at a different console, should the new frame inherit normal-backspace-is-erase ? I believe it should -- it currently does not. >>>>> "Richard" == Richard Stallman writes: Richard> After reading the recent messages, I am not sure Richard> whether people agree there is indeed now a problem Richard> in the decision about which character should delete Richard> backwards. Richard> Richard> But it occurs to me that when using multiple Richard> terminals, it could happen that some of them want Richard> BACKSPACE to delete backwards and some want DELETE Richard> to do it. Richard> Richard> So shouldn't normal-erase-is-backspace-mode operate Richard> on local-function-key-map? -- Best Regards, --raman Email: raman@users.sf.net WWW: http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/ AIM: emacspeak GTalk: tv.raman.tv@gmail.com PGP: http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/raman-almaden.asc Google: tv+raman IRC: irc://irc.freenode.net/#emacs