From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tom Tromey Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: CVS is the `released version' Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 08:10:43 -0700 Message-ID: <17992.31731.577467.566308@localhost.localdomain> References: <2cd46e7f0705101124r72000f78xdf05d18ca815ca57@mail.gmail.com> <17991.47259.210100.801472@localhost.localdomain> <864pmfzz3c.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> Reply-To: Tom Tromey NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1179156431 28774 80.91.229.12 (14 May 2007 15:27:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 15:27:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Tom Tromey , rms@gnu.org, joakim@verona.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 14 17:27:09 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HncS3-0007gr-TF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 May 2007 17:27:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HncZp-00063i-Dk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 May 2007 11:35:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HncZl-000606-7F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 May 2007 11:35:05 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HncZi-0005ua-Sn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 May 2007 11:35:03 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HncZi-0005uG-NQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 May 2007 11:35:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([66.187.233.31]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HncRu-0000mb-FE; Mon, 14 May 2007 11:26:58 -0400 Original-Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l4EFQvxk021822; Mon, 14 May 2007 11:26:57 -0400 Original-Received: from pobox.corp.redhat.com (pobox.corp.redhat.com [10.11.255.20]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l4EFQvM7004213; Mon, 14 May 2007 11:26:57 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain.redhat.com (vpn-14-133.rdu.redhat.com [10.11.14.133]) by pobox.corp.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l4EFQq0Y025226; Mon, 14 May 2007 11:26:53 -0400 In-Reply-To: <864pmfzz3c.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> X-Mailer: VM 7.19-cannot_determine_precise_VM_version. under Emacs 22.0.95.1 X-Attribution: Tom X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:71038 Archived-At: >>>>> "David" == David Kastrup writes: David> Once one has a central repository, there is no significant advantage David> over not having packages but instead putting everything inside of David> Emacs. I don't agree. The biggest benefit I see is that packages can be updated on the package maintainer's schedule. Emacs, on the other hand, is updated on the Emacs maintainers' schedule. There's also the fact that there are useful Emacs packages which will never be included in Emacs. >> First, many packages are released between Emacs releases; package.el >> makes it simple to update to these releases and use them. Second, >> not every useful Emacs Lisp package out there is going to be >> included in Emacs. We've seen over the years that having a separate >> repository is in fact very useful to Emacs users. David> Who saw that? Everybody who ever used the Ohio State Elisp Archive, ELL, or uploaded or downloaded code from the Emacs Wiki. Tom