From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nick Roberts Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: doc patch: "Saving Properties" merge into "Format Conversion" Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 12:03:30 +1200 Message-ID: <17979.51666.93559.254397@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> References: <87ps5m2s7z.fsf@ambire.localdomain> <87bqh3zi91.fsf@ambire.localdomain> <17978.34192.154994.884454@farnswood.snap.net.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1178323428 31496 80.91.229.12 (5 May 2007 00:03:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 00:03:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 05 02:03:45 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Hk7kV-0003Tx-BD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 May 2007 02:03:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hk7rB-0007pu-H3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 20:10:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hk7r7-0007pZ-RC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 20:10:33 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hk7r6-0007pK-7b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 20:10:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hk7r6-0007pH-2X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 20:10:32 -0400 Original-Received: from viper.snap.net.nz ([202.37.101.8]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Hk7kN-0007ZK-SZ; Fri, 04 May 2007 20:03:36 -0400 Original-Received: from kahikatea.snap.net.nz (217.63.255.123.dynamic.snap.net.nz [123.255.63.217]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id B97603DA5DE; Sat, 5 May 2007 12:03:32 +1200 (NZST) Original-Received: by kahikatea.snap.net.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C10DE8F92B; Sat, 5 May 2007 12:03:30 +1200 (NZST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 22.1.50.10 X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:70555 Archived-At: > Or, alternatively, you could make a release from EMACS_22_BASE and then > install your changes there. Just an idea. > > You mean, not install those changes at all until after the release? > That would work, but I want to get them off my plate now. When I started contributing, emacs-devel was a vibrant mailing list, but it no longer feels like one, and statistics seem to confirm this (*). You don't say what changes you intend to install, but I can see no logic in putting them there. I can only guess that the purpose is to stall development on the trunk. Whatever your goals, I think some of us feel that we are just being used to serve them. You talk of community, but it's not the kind with which I'm familiar. -- Nick http://www.inet.net.nz/~nickrob (*) http://www.ohloh.net/projects/3547/factoids/121960 Factoid: "Decreasing year-over-year development activity" Over the last twelve months, GNU Emacs has seen a substantial decline in development activity. This could mean many things. This may be a warning sign that interest in this project is waning, or it may indicate a maturing software base that requires fewer fixes.