From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nick Roberts Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Updating the homepage Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 12:46:53 +1300 Message-ID: <17901.64877.891717.276947@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> References: <87mz2tqhhn.fsf@pacem.orebokech.com> <878xeayadw.fsf@pacem.orebokech.com> <87649eaqti.fsf@wigwam.brockman.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1173224848 14309 80.91.229.12 (6 Mar 2007 23:47:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 23:47:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Daniel Brockman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 07 00:47:14 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HOjNB-0006Jo-U8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Mar 2007 00:47:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOjND-0006qN-Ip for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:47:15 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HOjN3-0006qF-0O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:47:05 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HOjMy-0006pe-Os for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:47:03 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOjMy-0006pU-FL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:47:00 -0500 Original-Received: from viper.snap.net.nz ([202.37.101.8]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HOjMv-0005D7-Uq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:46:58 -0500 Original-Received: from kahikatea.snap.net.nz (39.63.255.123.dynamic.snap.net.nz [123.255.63.39]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id A32E33DA0A8; Wed, 7 Mar 2007 12:46:56 +1300 (NZDT) Original-Received: by kahikatea.snap.net.nz (Postfix, from userid 500) id 1AB2A4F726; Wed, 7 Mar 2007 12:46:54 +1300 (NZDT) In-Reply-To: <87649eaqti.fsf@wigwam.brockman.se> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 22.0.94.3 X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:67458 Archived-At: > The paragraphs that just enumerate features and changes in no > particular order might be better presented as bulleted lists. > I suggest something like the following. I think this is a big improvement in structure, although I'm not sure about use of the passive. I would put: > | - Emacs can be built with GTK+ widgets, and supports > | drag-and-drop operations on X. at the start, as it involves configuration. > | - The Grand Unified Debugger (GUD) can be used with a > | full graphical user interface to the backend debugger; > | this provides many features found in traditional > | development environments, making it easy to manipulate > | breakpoints, add watch points, display the call stack, etc. > | Breakpoints are visually indicated in the source buffer. Actually this is only really true for GDB. Other debuggers like perldb, pdb, jdb etc work pretty much as before, apart from having a toolbar. -- Nick http://www.inet.net.nz/~nickrob