From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nick Roberts Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Strange eval-after-load Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 09:48:53 +1200 Message-ID: <17578.57925.153141.353397@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> References: <20060702133304.GA4008@muc.de> <20060703105727.GA2626@muc.de> <85ac7rouo6.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <20060703135010.GB2626@muc.de> <20060704080222.GA1316@muc.de> <20060704210805.GF1316@muc.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1152049824 11472 80.91.229.2 (4 Jul 2006 21:50:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 21:50:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 04 23:50:21 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Fxsmf-00035t-4g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Jul 2006 23:50:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Fxsme-00081P-P4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Jul 2006 17:50:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FxsmS-000817-Nm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jul 2006 17:50:04 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FxsmR-00080l-8h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jul 2006 17:50:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FxsmR-00080i-5d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jul 2006 17:50:03 -0400 Original-Received: from [202.37.101.8] (helo=viper.snap.net.nz) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Fxt0B-0006zl-Ts for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jul 2006 18:04:16 -0400 Original-Received: from kahikatea.snap.net.nz (p276-tnt1.snap.net.nz [202.124.111.22]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E54476ED00; Wed, 5 Jul 2006 09:50:03 +1200 (NZST) Original-Received: by kahikatea.snap.net.nz (Postfix, from userid 500) id 7517F1D3550; Wed, 5 Jul 2006 09:48:54 +1200 (NZST) Original-To: Alan Mackenzie In-Reply-To: <20060704210805.GF1316@muc.de> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 22.0.50.24 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:56532 Archived-At: > To construe this form as "modifying the behaviour of another Lisp file > (?edebug, presumably) in an invisible way" seems like a total perversion > of reality to me. To exaggerate the case makes it appear weaker not stronger. > I would call this e-a-l "Telling another Lisp file > how to handle the current one" - in essence, the module which is > modified by this e-a-l is cc-defs, not edebug. Theres a more fundamental reality here: Richard perceives eval-after-load as bad and he is project mainatainer. -- Nick http://www.inet.net.nz/~nickrob