From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nick Roberts Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: thumbs.el and transparency Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 22:27:10 +1300 Message-ID: <17369.59246.383626.699005@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> References: <17366.53124.274532.548329@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <87y814vhxj.fsf@jurta.org> <17367.17105.271024.157799@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <17369.17978.521026.397616@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1138356233 9400 80.91.229.2 (27 Jan 2006 10:03:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 10:03:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Mathias Dahl Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 27 11:03:51 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F2QSH-0007yE-Ef for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 11:03:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F2QIQ-00082Z-IP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 04:53:35 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1F2Pwq-0003ub-MH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 04:31:17 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1F2Pwm-0003ss-I7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 04:31:14 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F2Pwk-0003sZ-Ol for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 04:31:11 -0500 Original-Received: from [202.37.101.8] (helo=viper.snap.net.nz) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F2PuP-0004MO-4X; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 04:28:45 -0500 Original-Received: from kahikatea.snap.net.nz (p156-tnt2.snap.net.nz [202.124.108.156]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07598739724; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 22:28:05 +1300 (NZDT) Original-Received: by kahikatea.snap.net.nz (Postfix, from userid 500) id 81B8B8884; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 22:27:11 +1300 (NZDT) Original-To: Miles Bader In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 22.0.50.51 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:49612 Archived-At: > > We've covered this before: thumbs is simpler and best suited for basic > > tasks, tumme for more complex ones. > > I've not seen much consensus on that point I didn't say there was, but it was a viewpoint expressed by more than one person. > (indeed the consensus > _seemed_ to say that tumme will replace thumbs), I think that only Richard has said that, but since he makes the decisions and they are not made by consensus, that may be more more crucial. I would seem odd though, given that tumme is a package that was added 18 months after the start of the feature freeze. > but I must admit: I > couldn't figure out how to make tumme do anything remotely useful in > the 10 minutes I spent trying it out. ... > Thumbs operation on the other hand is er, pretty obvious and > straight-forward, and it seems reasonably useful for what it does... That's almost a consensus then :) Nick