From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nick Roberts Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: thumbs.el and transparency Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 22:20:17 +1300 Message-ID: <17367.17105.271024.157799@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> References: <17366.53124.274532.548329@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <87y814vhxj.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1138180909 24495 80.91.229.2 (25 Jan 2006 09:21:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:21:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 25 10:21:48 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F1gqX-0005D8-Pn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:21:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F1gtH-0002xL-8x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 04:24:35 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1F1gso-0002oe-5Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 04:24:06 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1F1gsk-0002i5-UH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 04:24:04 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F1gsj-0002hE-QL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 04:24:01 -0500 Original-Received: from [202.37.101.8] (helo=viper.snap.net.nz) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F1gq6-0003p1-7K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 04:21:18 -0500 Original-Received: from kahikatea.snap.net.nz (p225-tnt1.snap.net.nz [202.124.110.225]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id B21A773FE7A; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 22:21:07 +1300 (NZDT) Original-Received: by kahikatea.snap.net.nz (Postfix, from userid 500) id 5871D8884; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 22:20:18 +1300 (NZDT) Original-To: Juri Linkov In-Reply-To: <87y814vhxj.fsf@jurta.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 22.0.50.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:49522 Archived-At: > > Currently thumbs.el stores all thumbnails as jpeg images. Some image > > formats such as xpm allow transparency (do M-x thumbs on > > emacs/etc/images, for example). When converted to jpeg a transparent > > background is converted to a black one, so if the foreground is also > > black you see nothing. > > > > There has been a discussion about formats before and I don't wan't to undo > > any of that. How about the change below which creates thumbnails in the > > same format as the image when its xpm xbm or pbm, and uses jpeg otherwise? > > Could you change it to generate thumbnail images according to the > Thumbnail Managing Standard? I've not even heard of the Thumbnail Managing Standard. Does it deal with transparency? Or is it a tangential question? > I now have 4 (!) thumbnail directories that all share the same purpose: > > ~/.emacs-thumbs > ~/.emacs.d/thumbs > ~/.thumbnails > ~/.tumme > > This is ridiculous. Let's unify them all before the release. I guess you can delete ~/.emacs-thumbs since thats no longer used by thumbs.el. Unifying them presupposes an understanding of the requirements. By all accounts both thumbs and tumme are immature, so I'm not sure that we're at that stage yet (I'm certainly not). Nick