From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Aidan Kehoe Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: GTK file selector Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 12:07:31 +0100 Message-ID: <17317.17139.108082.65314@parhasard.net> References: <1134552456.439fe58850f31@imp5-g19.free.fr> <878xuma53q.fsf@jurta.org> <17313.37186.344268.487103@parhasard.net> <87d5jxsgib.fsf@jurta.org> <17314.42778.220813.47226@parhasard.net> <17315.7877.155144.973236@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <85irtoadgf.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87lkyk62zc.fsf@marant.org> <85acf0a9zx.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87zmmzoov9.fsf@marant.org> <853bkr92a0.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <17316.36711.500818.283095@parhasard.net> <85fyor6xyu.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1134907979 2188 80.91.229.2 (18 Dec 2005 12:12:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 12:12:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 18 13:12:52 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EnxNv-0003ax-UL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 13:11:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EnxJf-0002Om-6y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 07:07:03 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EnwP3-0006Nf-Ev for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 06:08:33 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EnwP0-0006Mo-53 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 06:08:31 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EnwOt-0006M8-5t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 06:08:23 -0500 Original-Received: from [66.111.49.30] (helo=icarus.asclepian.ie) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EnwRc-0006jm-Fy; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 06:11:12 -0500 Original-Received: by icarus.asclepian.ie (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 357CC8008C; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 11:07:31 +0000 (GMT) Original-To: David Kastrup In-Reply-To: <85fyor6xyu.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 17) "Jumbo Shrimp" XEmacs Lucid X-Echelon-distraction: basement PGP 5.1 dort Defcon VI codes Johohonbu X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:47988 Archived-At: Ar an t-ocht=C3=BA l=C3=A1 d=C3=A9ag de m=C3=AD na Nollaig, scr=C3=ADobh= David Kastrup:=20 > [...] If things don't get ported to XEmacs until there is a compatibil= ity > API, this can simply be because the native API is incomprehensible, if= it > works at all. Sure, but the GNU APIs, with their documentation and clarity, didn=E2=80=99= t get that way _ex nihilo._ I=E2=80=99m sure someone besides the original devel= oper tried to use them, failed, found out why, and fixed the problem.=20 > Point the fingers all you want, but you are deluding yourself if you > imagine that the waning popularity of XEmacs among developers is just > a matter of religious beliefs. I never imagined any such thing. The waning popularity of XEmacs among developers is a result of the waning popularity of XEmacs among users, wh= ose roots are that Ben Wing hasn=E2=80=99t been coding like a dervish for mos= t of a decade, and that Stephen=E2=80=99s high quality standards for letting cod= e in means people who learn about the codebase from scratching an itch, are discoura= ged when the code to do that isn=E2=80=99t integrated.=20 Anyway, back to doing something useful.=20 --=20 I AM IN JAIL AND ALLOWED SEND ONLY ONE CABLE SINCE WAS ARRESTED WHILE MEASURING FIFTEEN FOOT WALL OUTSIDE PALACE AND HAVE JUST FINISHED COUNTIN= G THIRTY EIGHT THOUSAND FIVE HUNDERED TWENTY TWO NAMES WHOS WHO IN MIDEAST.