From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nick Roberts Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Strange things with (shrink-window). Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 09:13:25 +1300 Message-ID: <17275.37605.434203.636150@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> References: <87hdady70s.fsf@mahaena.lrde> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1132172355 22255 80.91.229.2 (16 Nov 2005 20:19:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 20:19:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Michael Cadilhac , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 16 21:19:14 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EcTfC-0000GM-2f for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 21:13:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EcTfB-0000l5-Bw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:13:49 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EcTf0-0000l0-75 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:13:38 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EcTey-0000ko-Me for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:13:37 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EcTey-0000kl-Id for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:13:36 -0500 Original-Received: from [202.37.101.8] (helo=viper.snap.net.nz) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EcTeg-0001t4-VS; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:13:19 -0500 Original-Received: from kahikatea.snap.net.nz (p80-tnt2.snap.net.nz [202.124.108.80]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6EA07309F3; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 09:13:14 +1300 (NZDT) Original-Received: by kahikatea.snap.net.nz (Postfix, from userid 500) id 0058683AE; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 09:13:25 +1300 (NZDT) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 22.0.50.21 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:46107 Archived-At: Richard M. Stallman writes: > $ emacs -Q (with or without -nw) > > Then C-x 3 C-x 2, then go to the window on the right. > > Now, M-x global-set-key RET F10 RET shrink-window RET > > Then press F10: nothings happen. > > Press F10 and stay on the touch. The window on the upper left will > start to slowly and randomly shrink. > > I agree that is a bug. If the first invocation of F10 does nothing, > all further invocations should do nothing. (It is supposed to > vertically shrink the window, and that can't be done, since it has no > vertical peers.) > > Can someone please debug this and reply to this message? I am > overloaded and cannot do it myself. But fixing bugs like this is > important for the release--there's no point starting a pretest to find > out additional bugs, if we aren't fixing the ones we know about. There is a point: to progress the release. This is a really obscure bug. Whenever, or if ever, Emacs is released, it will have bugs. Its a question of balancing the inconvenience of those bugs against the benefit of the availability to, and feedback from, a large number of users. I realise that philosophers talk about freedom whereas only supermarkets get excited about availability, but its a shame. Nick