From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: angelo.g0@libero.it Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Summary and next steps for (package-initialize) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 10:24:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <1713670314.477114.1503303849685@mail.libero.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1503310936 30072 195.159.176.226 (21 Aug 2017 10:22:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 10:22:16 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 21 12:22:13 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1djjqP-0007E7-TY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2017 12:22:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59326 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1djjqW-0002Eo-Ky for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2017 06:22:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54573) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dji0W-0002lC-R5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2017 04:24:25 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dji0N-0001CE-6w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2017 04:24:20 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp-32.italiaonline.it ([212.48.25.160]:50073 helo=libero.it) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dji0M-0001BG-Vp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2017 04:24:15 -0400 Original-Received: from oxapps-10-060.iol.local ([10.255.24.226]) by smtp-32.iol.local with SMTP id ji0HdBtnVGmGtji0HdvcVP; Mon, 21 Aug 2017 10:24:09 +0200 x-libjamoibt: 1601 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=libero.it; s=s2014; t=1503303849; bh=8jj6j7uNVT/KUR/pDJIb2jq7RbkoaWhdGYsHgHiAt+Y=; h=Date:From:To:Subject; b=ekXZsX+FGmfPVgtYOcPxOoCkex2os4uOZsy+81iped3AqCys6ujfON0UW6RDAtvGD 3+j/HrI0YkEMcg3yZx3PmjRtsVeAjxTViujEKPUcjW3PinsIcU+uXQWS5RvOhsbMz6 sRSfJeJg9uSDOanw3AJIfr2Au56g1fTWMLLNzkoRmB7G0o99rPqrMocI4uzU8Fljre ySVupml0whtqGrUg5UiflBODSL6hRzo5s3h+NnM/u22w76/au2uCvBHYAOq7c03dDs V6FYe+29nUnPwdeqiYTUrsXNx4BKDrTOqWHVUovQ+7LtA5JON0JLrZdFP0kNAxY4El a5ABmHUXrqnsw== X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=cOKQihWN c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=fh72oUakbdX+7f+vMDArbw==:117 a=LApjbQeUcGUA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=mfmKPp_4SEjtwN6UPIgA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Medium X-Mailer: Open-Xchange Mailer v7.8.3-Rev25 X-Originating-IP: 95.239.230.82 X-Originating-Client: open-xchange-appsuite x-libjamsun: TvZ3/i9TiOVfOJqNW3ZKmbMMJGjs0MqQ x-libjamv: CgF+/Nu/ybg= X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfHB/FMGm4PhStHElZdD+of/XZWRL2swXnVW6AgFQ7BU/VUD46b7S08hl+nKcLfPLqLf+E5KrANLSMbllFNz4vv4vIBUW9Paou5TkDZ8mLC3oiIQ1McE6 0aQfFgwLIng4YFnKNTn7jhqVH2q2zBJI52rxtgQSmUb6I5aNUFgqcCU9x5uHtCB1hwYEt+spEtfxLA== X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 212.48.25.160 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 06:21:22 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:217649 Archived-At: > > Do you like the idea of Emacs modifying the user's init-file > > automatically, even if it already exists? If not, then do you agree > > that my proposal at least reduces the problem? > > I don't like either of these, but again, I see no significant > improvement, if at all. As simple user, I hope you do not proliferate the number of initialization files. If someone remember, I already flagged that the silently modification of init.el is not good but adding another file is even worse; in that discussion there was the suggestion to add this to init.el: (setq custom-file "~/.emacs.d/custom.el") (load custom-file) and now everything is under control.. BTW, Emacs works also without the information saved in the init.el or custom.el files... Ciao, Angelo.